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GM Oldfield


GM Bennett

Quote from: GM Franchise on December 16, 2021, 02:27:32 AM
Quote from: GM Bennett on December 16, 2021, 12:28:03 AM
Just me being active lol i dont much care how anyone takes it as I said previously. Just here for the fun of it all, unless someone has a issue with me just enjoying myself and having fun with the flavor of the game?

Also was waiting for Fosters to reply to Franchise Day 1 but he never did. And I don't think anyone took Talon's vote against you as a serious vote.

Since it's all fun to you, has anyone looked suspicious to you? Any observations on the players based on the posts that have been made so far?

Just Fosters for the time being for the reasons I've already stated. Not quite buying him saying it was a joke vote, then Stevie coming to his defense even tho it did seem sus to me. Is the vote on me actually for me saying I'm cool with being lynched resulting in town's mistake or is it cause I said Foster's vote was a bit sus?

Quote from: Talon on December 16, 2021, 08:42:07 AM
Ed's silence is odd, its unlike him to be inactive.

Something else to take note of going forward.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Bennett on December 16, 2021, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: GM Franchise on December 16, 2021, 02:27:32 AM
Quote from: GM Bennett on December 16, 2021, 12:28:03 AM
Just me being active lol i dont much care how anyone takes it as I said previously. Just here for the fun of it all, unless someone has a issue with me just enjoying myself and having fun with the flavor of the game?

Also was waiting for Fosters to reply to Franchise Day 1 but he never did. And I don't think anyone took Talon's vote against you as a serious vote.

Since it's all fun to you, has anyone looked suspicious to you? Any observations on the players based on the posts that have been made so far?

Just Fosters for the time being for the reasons I've already stated. Not quite buying him saying it was a joke vote, then Stevie coming to his defense even tho it did seem sus to me. Is the vote on me actually for me saying I'm cool with being lynched resulting in town's mistake or is it cause I said Foster's vote was a bit sus?

Quote from: Talon on December 16, 2021, 08:42:07 AM
Ed's silence is odd, its unlike him to be inactive.

Something else to take note of going forward.

Good answers. I'm specifically looking at the people pushing the Bennett vote. It's too easy and he's an easy vote for this day phase going by his posts. Most likely he's town and one of the people pushing that vote is who really is the right vote.

Powers and Fosters are the main two I'm looking at with Powers being the stronger feeling out of the two. The elaborate post keeps the heat on Bennett, keeps him active, and avoids drawing attention which is essential to successful scum play in this set up.

GM Dougie

Vote Count:

Bennett (1) - Oldfield

Deadline is in 20.5 hours. 5 votes for a lynch

GM Lucas

Not sure anyone is a Target but my spider sense always tingles towards attempted comedy.











(Sorry for absence, real world legal nonsense at my job, but it's been dealt with for now so I'm back)
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GM Oldfield

Quote from: GM Bennett on December 16, 2021, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: GM Franchise on December 16, 2021, 02:27:32 AM
Quote from: GM Bennett on December 16, 2021, 12:28:03 AM
Just me being active lol i dont much care how anyone takes it as I said previously. Just here for the fun of it all, unless someone has a issue with me just enjoying myself and having fun with the flavor of the game?

Also was waiting for Fosters to reply to Franchise Day 1 but he never did. And I don't think anyone took Talon's vote against you as a serious vote.

Since it's all fun to you, has anyone looked suspicious to you? Any observations on the players based on the posts that have been made so far?

Just Fosters for the time being for the reasons I've already stated. Not quite buying him saying it was a joke vote, then Stevie coming to his defense even tho it did seem sus to me. Is the vote on me actually for me saying I'm cool with being lynched resulting in town's mistake or is it cause I said Foster's vote was a bit sus?

Quote from: Talon on December 16, 2021, 08:42:07 AM
Ed's silence is odd, its unlike him to be inactive.

Something else to take note of going forward.

I just don't like people who say 'Go on lynch me, the town we'll regret etc.'

Fosters may well be suspect, he's certainly not done anything to prove his innocence. But that vote was a joke post IMO

GM Fosters

Sorry everyone, I forgot that only certain people are allowed to do a joke vote on day one.  ::)

Franchise and I wind each other up in every mafia game.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Fosters on December 17, 2021, 01:55:29 PM
Sorry everyone, I forgot that only certain people are allowed to do a joke vote on day one.  ::)

Franchise and I wind each other up in every mafia game.

Now you know why I keep saying day one joke voting is bullshit in every game.

GM Dougie

Speaking of votes...

Vote Count:

Bennett (1) - Oldfield

Deadline is in 3ish hours. 5 votes for a lynch

GM Eli

Not a lot to go on so far. But Oldfield defending Fosters but calling out Talon for the same thing, and then telling me to read his whole post without actually reading mine makes me lean in his direction.

That's the best I've got to go off of right now.

Vote: Oldfield

GM Bennett

Quote from: GM Oldfield on December 17, 2021, 12:51:21 PM
I just don't like people who say 'Go on lynch me, the town we'll regret etc.'

In case you missed it,

Quote from: GM Bennett on December 16, 2021, 12:28:03 AM
Just me being active lol i dont much care how anyone takes it as I said previously. Just here for the fun of it all, unless someone has a issue with me just enjoying myself and having fun with the flavor of the game?

Quote from: GM Bennett on December 15, 2021, 07:04:52 PM
Because I uh...I don't care who likes my post or not especially if I'm just trying to see if there's any clues to find out who Danica is and who she hacked to join her side

Just in case you're not connecting the dots, I don't care how anyone feels about my posts lol. This is the first time I've been able to be town in forever and I'm gonna do whatever I want, how I want in order to help town and that includes being a martyr (first lynch) just to help the game go along. How you may take that is beyond me, I'm just here to have fun and take on this whacky adventure the mod has us on.

If that's you're key reason to vote for me by all means but pairing iffy reasoning + what others have pointed out it's just looks a bit strange.

Quote from: GM Fosters on December 17, 2021, 01:55:29 PM
Sorry everyone, I forgot that only certain people are allowed to do a joke vote on day one.  ::)

No, the interaction was just weird to me. Didn't appear Franchise was in on that joke so why should I assume it was just two pals trying to poke fun at each other and not something obvious like purposely try to go after someone who is looked at as a surefire to react to anything and everything, high paranoia and will scrutinize everything. If your planning on getting a rise out of someone, Franchise would surely be one of those people (which he even has admitted himself).




All that said, taking everything into consideration and backreading Stevie is a bit too wishy washy for me and very suspect. Voted for me but I'm just not buying his reasonining along with his sporadic finger pointing all while defending Fosters who is imo also suspect.

VOTE: OLDFIELD

GM Mike Powers

Quote from: GM Pancho on December 16, 2021, 12:05:55 AM
Quote from: GM Franchise on December 15, 2021, 08:46:20 PM
Quote from: GM Pancho on December 15, 2021, 07:07:07 PM
Since no one answered my question I did my own math - Number relate to the number of posts the person has made but not the quality of them.

1. Fosters - 4
2. Oldfield - 3
3. Eli - 2
4. Bennett - 6
5. Franchise - 6
6. Talon - 2
7. Lucas - 2
8. Pancho - 2
9. Powers - 3

Fosters and Franchise as the only two people to vote day one what was the reasoning for your votes and would you make the same votes for this day phase?

I didn't vote Day One. Fosters voted me and Talon voted for you.

I stand corrected. Sorry for assuming you OMGUS voted.

Quote from: GM Bennett on December 15, 2021, 09:23:09 PM
Talon was a joke vote I think but Fosters' vote was a bit sus cause it was specifically tailored to try and get a rise out of Franchise. Franchise replied back implying because of the reason he chose to vote for Franchise, he should instead vote himself. I understood Talon was fucking around but I just didn't really get the Fosters vote tbqh. If it was a joke vote fine but didn't quite rub me the right way and Franchise rightfully so didn't take a liking to it either

1. I hate people making arguments on behalf of others.  You're making a lot of assumptions FOR Talon and while I don't disagree with you I wouldn't come to that conclusion with the finality you have.

2. You make a lot of great points about Fosters vote - why didn't you voice them before in day one or earlier in this day phase? Instead you've stuck to the flavor and brushed it all off with a "you'll be sorry post" and then followed it up with this whopper "I'm just trying to see if there's any clues to find out who Danica is and who she hacked to join her side" - something your previous post could have easily replaced.

3. So Bennett can you walk me through the logic of the posts you've made?


Two posts later.....


Quote from: GM Fosters on December 16, 2021, 01:52:59 AM
I didn't reply to Franchise's comments because I was joking about voting Franchise on day 1. I have no reason to be suspicious of him yet.

Bennett is coming across as suspicious though, especially the way he's making arguments on behalf of others.


Way to piggyback off of a strong player.

Vote - Fosters

GM Dougie

No need...

No lynch. It is now night two. you have 48 hours until 8:30pm EST Sunday to submit your actions in the appropriate area. Day phase MAY start sooner if all actions are submitted.

GM Dougie

Danica: "So here's the plan. You show your tits on the internet, we see who goes to look at them, track their IP address, and boom. We kill a mother fucker."

Candace: "If there's literally only one thing that's ever mattered in my career, its these jugs!"



(Instantly, the two get hits from all over but one specifically comes from Eli.) The go daddy crew drives over to his place and Candace shows her tits outside of his window.)

Eli: Shit those are real?

(The moment Eli steps outside, Danica runs his ass over in the Go Daddy car.)

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Dead: Eli - The Mod??!!

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It is now Day 3. You have a little over 72 hours until 8:30pm EST to come to a lynch. With 8 players remaining it takes 5 to lynch.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Eli on December 17, 2021, 04:21:49 PM
Not a lot to go on so far. But Oldfield defending Fosters but calling out Talon for the same thing, and then telling me to read his whole post without actually reading mine makes me lean in his direction.

That's the best I've got to go off of right now.

Vote: Oldfield

Eli was clearly onto something with this post. These two and Powers before his last post are my strongest reads but I don't suspect Powers anymore after his vote post. That said I think Eli was killed for being too close to figuring things out. Oldfield, anything to say about this?

GM Lucas

Seems coincidental that once ELI starts questioning Oldfield he gets murked. Buuuuuutttttt, I have to think it's a rookie move to murk the guy who puts a vote on you so early. I find it hard to believe Oldfield would pull a rookie move like that. I could be wrong but this smells more like a slight a hand move to get attention away from the perp.

One thing that stood out was Oldfield dropped a vote on Bennett. A bunch of post from everyone later Bennett only dropped a vote on Oldfield only after ELI did so. Weird timing, not sure if it was a safe bandwagon move or not. But for them ELI to get murked makes my spider sense tingle.

Bennett, can you explain your timing on voting Oldfield only after ELI did so.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Lucas on December 19, 2021, 09:45:53 PM
Seems coincidental that once ELI starts questioning Oldfield he gets murked. Buuuuuutttttt, I have to think it's a rookie move to murk the guy who puts a vote on you so early. I find it hard to believe Oldfield would pull a rookie move like that. I could be wrong but this smells more like a slight a hand move to get attention away from the perp.

One thing that stood out was Oldfield dropped a vote on Bennett. A bunch of post from everyone later Bennett only dropped a vote on Oldfield only after ELI did so. Weird timing, not sure if it was a safe bandwagon move or not. But for them ELI to get murked makes my spider sense tingle.

Bennett, can you explain your timing on voting Oldfield only after ELI did so.

I don't think Oldfield did it. I think he either knows who did it (if he was the recruit night one) or the other party in the Eli vote post, Fosters, did it to set him up. It would both eliminate Eli who was onto something and set up a fall guy for it at the same time. One of these two scenarios is what I think is going on.

GM Bennett

Quote from: GM Lucas on December 19, 2021, 09:45:53 PM
Seems coincidental that once ELI starts questioning Oldfield he gets murked. Buuuuuutttttt, I have to think it's a rookie move to murk the guy who puts a vote on you so early. I find it hard to believe Oldfield would pull a rookie move like that. I could be wrong but this smells more like a slight a hand move to get attention away from the perp.

One thing that stood out was Oldfield dropped a vote on Bennett. A bunch of post from everyone later Bennett only dropped a vote on Oldfield only after ELI did so. Weird timing, not sure if it was a safe bandwagon move or not. But for them ELI to get murked makes my spider sense tingle.

Bennett, can you explain your timing on voting Oldfield only after ELI did so.

I already explained my reasoning in my post, and still feel the same way.

Vote: Oldfield

GM Mike Powers

Am I alone in thinking Eli's death reads like some PGO variant? It looks like Eli targeted Candace, and was killed because of it?

GM Franchise

Quote from: Mike Powers on December 20, 2021, 02:39:15 PM
Am I alone in thinking Eli's death reads like some PGO variant? It looks like Eli targeted Candace, and was killed because of it?

You are correct, it reads like that to me which only leads me right back to his vote post. Going to let everyone check in but leaning Fosters for my vote right now.

GM Oldfield

Wow. Someone's clearly framed me. Very clever.

GM Oldfield

And just for the record. I have literally no knowledge of any night activities. Sorry.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Oldfield on December 20, 2021, 04:05:20 PM
Wow. Someone's clearly framed me. Very clever.

This is the same conclusion I came to. I think you're the fall guy for the real culprit considering you had heat on you last day phase. It's a smart move by whoever did it.

GM Oldfield

I mean my only guess would be Bennett. He went on me quite hot and doesn't seem to be the type that does it just because I attacked him. Kept accusing me of 'defending fosters' over and over again about one post where I thought he made a joke.


GM Fosters

I'm not entirely sure why Oldfield is taking as much heat as he is. I also don't know why everyone is think I am so suspicious.

I happened to make a joke vote about Franchise and I always being at each other throats, and low and behold he's come after me... again.

Im not saying Franchise is scum, just I think a few people are playing on that history.

GM Oldfield

Seems to me a lot of people have spotted this attempt to frame me. It's just a question of who would do it

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Fosters on December 20, 2021, 04:23:50 PM
I'm not entirely sure why Oldfield is taking as much heat as he is. I also don't know why everyone is think I am so suspicious.

I happened to make a joke vote about Franchise and I always being at each other throats, and low and behold he's come after me... again.

Im not saying Franchise is scum, just I think a few people are playing on that history.

I'm not saying you're scum going by that. I'm going by Eli's last post before he died. I think Oldfield got set up and the only other person mentioned in that post was you. That's my theory at the moment

GM Bennett

Quote from: GM Oldfield on December 20, 2021, 04:20:16 PM
I mean my only guess would be Bennett. He went on me quite hot and doesn't seem to be the type that does it just because I attacked him. Kept accusing me of 'defending fosters' over and over again about one post where I thought he made a joke.

Lies on top of lies. I don't have any ulterior motives or anything to go off except what has been presented to me with all the posts I've read. Everything I've read makes me suspect you & Fosters and I have no reason to not think any different especially after Drew got killed.

I. Am. Not. Changing. My. Mind.

There's nothing either of you can say to change my mind.

Talon

Quote from: Mike Powers on December 20, 2021, 02:39:15 PM
Am I alone in thinking Eli's death reads like some PGO variant? It looks like Eli targeted Candace, and was killed because of it?

I think that's more flavor of the write up, Candace is written up as red, so I don't know if there would be a scum PGO type role, and technically Candace visited Eli's window.

Quote from: GM Bennett on December 20, 2021, 06:59:29 PM
Quote from: GM Oldfield on December 20, 2021, 04:20:16 PM
I mean my only guess would be Bennett. He went on me quite hot and doesn't seem to be the type that does it just because I attacked him. Kept accusing me of 'defending fosters' over and over again about one post where I thought he made a joke.

Lies on top of lies. I don't have any ulterior motives or anything to go off except what has been presented to me with all the posts I've read. Everything I've read makes me suspect you & Fosters and I have no reason to not think any different especially after Drew got killed.

I. Am. Not. Changing. My. Mind.

There's nothing either of you can say to change my mind.

I'm starting to lean into the Fosters as scum idea, but I don't think that Oldfield is at this time. 

Vote - Fosters


Not 100% yet, but its my strongest read.


Ed and Pancho being quiet continues to pique my interest though.

GM Franchise

Fuck it, was leaning Fosters anyway so I'm not crazy with my game assessment.

Vote: Fosters

GM Mike Powers

Quote from: Talon on December 20, 2021, 07:39:27 PM

I think that's more flavor of the write up, Candace is written up as red, so I don't know if there would be a scum PGO type role, and technically Candace visited Eli's window.



I re-read it and you're correct - I mistakenly read it as Candace visiting Eli, but it was the other way around. My bad.

Not ready to vote yet, want to hear what Fosters has to say next.

GM Lucas

Quote from: GM Lucas on December 19, 2021, 09:45:53 PM
Seems coincidental that once ELI starts questioning Oldfield he gets murked. Buuuuuutttttt, I have to think it's a rookie move to murk the guy who puts a vote on you so early. I find it hard to believe Oldfield would pull a rookie move like that. I could be wrong but this smells more like a slight a hand move to get attention away from the perp.

One thing that stood out was Oldfield dropped a vote on Bennett. A bunch of post from everyone later Bennett only dropped a vote on Oldfield only after ELI did so. Weird timing, not sure if it was a safe bandwagon move or not. But for them ELI to get murked makes my spider sense tingle.

Bennett, can you explain your timing on voting Oldfield only after ELI did so.

DEFINITELY! HAVE NOT BEEN QUIET. Said my peace, asked Bennett to elaborate, he double downed. I sat back and watched what Fosters, Oldfield and Bennett have to say. Definitely don't feel like posting for the sake of being active.

As far as Fosters go, he hasn't made a case for himself not being scum, can't see dropping a vote on him just yet though.

Killing Eli raised some possibilities

Bennett Framing Oldfield.

Fosters Framing Bennett and or Oldfield

Oldfield being ballsy and killing Eli so he could play the "Framed me Card"

GM Dougie

Vote Count:

Oldfield (1) - Bennett
Fosters (2) - Talon, Franchise

Deadline is in 33.5ish hours. 5 votes are required to lynch.

GM Mike Powers

Not crazy about it, but we need a lynch.

Vote Fosters

GM Fosters

Is a mis-lynch better than no lynch at all?

I would have hoped my fellow new board members wouldn't have voted to lynch one of their own!

Talon


GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Fosters on December 21, 2021, 03:11:45 PM
Is a mis-lynch better than no lynch at all?

I would have hoped my fellow new board members wouldn't have voted to lynch one of their own!

Doesn't mean you weren't recruited. My vote is staying put.

GM Franchise

Quote from: Talon on December 21, 2021, 04:05:39 PM
unvote

Just because he knows about new board members doesn't mean he's innocent. There was a recruit night one. If it was him or someone was recruited they easily could pass on that information to their teammate which is why I'm not budging on this. It's an easy way out to say that if someone got caught.

GM Oldfield

An Unvote with no explanation is quite suspicious

GM Fosters

Vote Oldfield

For not understanding why. I agree Talon could have been recruited... but Oldfield not getting it looks scummy to me.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Fosters on December 21, 2021, 04:25:15 PM
Vote Oldfield

For not understanding why. I agree Talon could have been recruited... but Oldfield not getting it looks scummy to me.

What is he not getting exactly that looks scummy to you? I went back and looked but nothing in your posts or his stood out to me.

GM Oldfield


GM Pancho


GM Oldfield

I'm scared to ask what FOS means in case you jump down my throat too Pancho

GM Pancho

Quote from: GM Oldfield on December 21, 2021, 04:54:15 PM
I'm scared to ask what FOS means in case you jump down my throat too Pancho

Means I am pointing a Finger Of Suspicion

GM Dougie

Vote Count:

Oldfield (2) - Bennett, Fosters
Fosters (4) - Franchise, Powers, Oldfield, Pancho

Not Voting: Talon, Lucas

Deadline is in a little over 12 hours. 5 votes are required to lynch.

GM Franchise

We have 12 hours left in the day phase. Anyone have anything else to add?

Talon

We need a lynch, and it's true that Fosters could be recruited. 

Vote Fosters

GM Dougie

Vote Count:

Oldfield (2) - Bennett, Fosters
Fosters (5) - Franchise, Powers, Oldfield, Pancho, Talon

Not Voting: Lucas


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The new boards members gather around Fosters and are determined that Fosters is either Danica or Candace. After brutually strangling Fosters to death, they rip his shirt off.

"These aren't the tits we're looking for!"

Alas...the GoDaddy crew remains at large looking to ruin our new home.

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Dead: Fosters - New Boards Member

It is now night 3. You have 48 hours to submit your actions appropriately. Day can start sooner if everything is in.

GM Dougie

Danica is making Candace wash her car off in a bikini because...you know, nearly naked girls covered in soap is totally a thing that attracts guys who lurk on the internet.

Its then that Pancho enters the scene.

"Tits. Ass. Give me a tequila."

Danica: How about I jack you off?

Its not what you think. She bashes his fucking skull in with a tire jack. Poor Pancho.

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Dead: Pancho - New Boards Member

It is now Day 4. With 6 players alive, 4 votes are required to lynch.

Given the holiday, this phase will last 96 hours to allow for additional time to play if needed. Deadline is 7pm-ish EST Monday 12/27.