Darkness Falls

[GM Bennett]

The question now are the supernatural and zombies a bigger threat than the Church is? That's the deciding point about this in my opinion.

From what has been said I would think the church is the least of Survivors worries. Shouldn't even be a worry at all but hey what do I know lol 😆

[GM Dougie]

If Bennett and I had a private chat I would be asking him not to quadruple post instead of doing that here in the game thread...lol

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@Eli I posted who I targeted already. Your call on what to believe. I'll go over it again anyway so that people can't say I said this about my targets.

I targeted Ed night 1, Pancho night 2, Fosters night 3. No one dead. Did Ed say who he targeted? I have no information on if he targeted me and that's why I became a zombie or if it was because I targeted him. My role is supposed to block and protect like a jailkeep so it doesn't explain how I got zombified if Ed was patient zero.

Bennett cured me. I was annointed with some holy water business and became church.

Pancho gave me an item night 2 that I cannot use because its supposed to prevent me from being a part of the church that I'm already a part of.

Fosters couldn't use his role last night because of me but at the same time I protected him from being brought into any faction whether it be church or anyone else.

Did I miss anything?

[GM Evans]

It is Day 4. With 11 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is at 8:30pm CST on Tuesday, March 15th.

Vote Count
Bennett - 3 (Pancho, Josh, Oldfield)
Doug - 2 (Kirk, Franchise)
Pancho - 1 (Bennett)

Not Voting: Eli, Doug, Powers, Fosters, Justin

[GM Franchise]

Unvote

I'm going to unvote now because I agree with the assessment that the Church is the lesser threat.

Pancho was targeted by Ed his last night in the game. That's what has my interest piqued more than the Church right now. We know who's in the Church, we need to find who isn't a Survivor out of the remaining players.

[GM Pancho]

Vote: Doug

He's still a zombie. That's the bottom line and reason enough to place a vote. Bennet is a threat yes but I feel Doug is the bigger threat.

I think I have been pretty straight forward that the lying - just like Ed did - is why I am currently voting Bennett.  Even Bennett said my discussion with him on Day one was justified.  Since then only more lies have been revealed.

Unvote

I'm going to unvote now because I agree with the assessment that the Church is the lesser threat.

Pancho was targeted by Ed his last night in the game. That's what has my interest piqued more than the Church right now. We know who's in the Church, we need to find who isn't a Survivor out of the remaining players.

Everyone who has come out publicly that they targeted me has gotten two results.  Being unsuccessful AND an item.  Just like my role says they will.

Is your concern that I chose Bennett over Doug?  They both need to go as far as I am concerned BECAUSE of the lying and changing stories.  I even go back to Kirk's post about the two of us being given the game as that struck me that our roles were very similar ... until Doug finally admitted that he was not just recruited once but twice [but did not keep two allignments - according to Doug - and did not stay a Zombie].

[GM Eli]

So here's a thought. My wincon as a survivor is basically live until the game is over. So it would seem to me that the church should be more concerned with making sure survivors side with them, since their job is to eliminate all threats to the world, and zombies are supposed to turn everyone into a zombie.

I can win either way, as far as I'm concerned, as if I get turned Myself, and other survivors, can win under the zombie wincon.

So really, Bennett, I think maybe you should care about how everyone else is perceiving what you're saying and convince me why I should support your cause rather than just waiting to be turned into a zombie.

[GM Pancho]

So here's a thought. My wincon as a survivor is basically live until the game is over. So it would seem to me that the church should be more concerned with making sure survivors side with them, since their job is to eliminate all threats to the world, and zombies are supposed to turn everyone into a zombie.

I can win either way, as far as I'm concerned, as if I get turned Myself, and other survivors, can win under the zombie wincon.

So really, Bennett, I think maybe you should care about how everyone else is perceiving what you're saying and convince me why I should support your cause rather than just waiting to be turned into a zombie.

This guy Survivors!  Josh was the only one I have seen with this kind of attitude - or at least state it explicitly. 

[GM Josh]

If Bennett and I had a private chat I would be asking him not to quadruple post instead of doing that here in the game thread...lol

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@Eli I posted who I targeted already. Your call on what to believe. I'll go over it again anyway so that people can't say I said this about my targets.

I targeted Ed night 1, Pancho night 2, Fosters night 3. No one dead. Did Ed say who he targeted? I have no information on if he targeted me and that's why I became a zombie or if it was because I targeted him. My role is supposed to block and protect like a jailkeep so it doesn't explain how I got zombified if Ed was patient zero.

Bennett cured me. I was annointed with some holy water business and became church.

Pancho gave me an item night 2 that I cannot use because its supposed to prevent me from being a part of the church that I'm already a part of.

Fosters couldn't use his role last night because of me but at the same time I protected him from being brought into any faction whether it be church or anyone else.

Did I miss anything?

That right there helps me more to believe the church is not on our side as why would you need to be protected from them if they were on the up and up. It seems like it's a battle of recruitment and we win as long as one side is eliminated. We know who 2 members of the church are for sure, thus making it easier to eliminate them and we win.

I am still intrigued by the silver bullet being claimed as received by two different people but only knowing of the two factions. Possible the church is a "church"

[GM Bennett]

If Bennett and I had a private chat I would be asking him not to quadruple post instead of doing that here in the game thread...lol

Was at work waiting for that time to get there so i could leave didn't much care and was the quickest way to reply.

That right there helps me more to believe the church is not on our side as why would you need to be protected from them if they were on the up and up. It seems like it's a battle of recruitment and we win as long as one side is eliminated. We know who 2 members of the church are for sure, thus making it easier to eliminate them and we win.

I am still intrigued by the silver bullet being claimed as received by two different people but only knowing of the two factions. Possible the church is a "church"

How the hell will survivors win by eliminating the faction that's helping them if you still have supernaturals trying to harm you all? Unless you're saying you're not a survivor and you can win if we are gone because we are your obvious opposition stopping you from turning the survivors??????

That's too weird...

[GM Eli]

How the hell will survivors win by eliminating the faction that's helping them if you still have supernaturals trying to harm you all? Unless you're saying you're not a survivor and you can win if we are gone because we are your obvious opposition stopping you from turning the survivors??????

That's too weird...

You aren't helping us. We're helping you. If all of us get turned into Zombies, we win under the Zombie win condition.

You need us. Not the other way around.

[GM Pancho]

Okay my Papa tendencies are kicking in.

Bennett a Survivor wins - when the game is over. 

In a traditional game where there is a town a mafia and a survivor.  The survivor wins when either the town gets rid of all mafia OR if the mafia meets their win condition and equals half the remaining players.

Essentially a Survivor chooses who to win with. 

What Eli is saying - why should we choose you?

You say supernaturals are trying to harm you all - but really that has not happened.  That's just more of your flavor talk because there have been 0 kills.  That's part of what got you in trouble in the first place. When saving someone actually meant recruiting them to your Holy Church versus working like a doctor.

[GM Franchise]

So basically everyone is recruiting and half the players in the game are full of shit? Got it.

[GM Eli]

So basically everyone is recruiting and half the players in the game are full of shit? Got it.

I don't think any survivors are recruiting. But there does seem to be a lot of liars, yes.

[GM Franchise]

So basically everyone is recruiting and half the players in the game are full of shit? Got it.

I don't think any survivors are recruiting. But there does seem to be a lot of liars, yes.

Of course there aren't recruiting. However they are being recruited and if that's the case then the number of Survivors are dwindling in numbers considerably each night phase.

[GM Bennett]

Lmao I don't win if survivors lose tf

[GM Bennett]

You're in a apocalyptic game trying to survive in it but...BUT OMG WE ZOMBIES ARE REAL I HOPE THEY BITE ME SO WE CAN WIN

[GM Eli]

I'm in a game of mafia trying to win. The flavor of the game is exactly that. Flavor.

[GM Bennett]

OMG HE SAID HE WINS WHEN ALL THREATS TO HUMANITY ARE ELIMINATED, HES AGAINST HUMANITY WE SHALL CRUCIFY HIM GRRRR

[GM Kirk]

Let's put it without the flavour. You have a green faction, yellow faction, a faction we haven't seen yet and purple survivors (assuming survivors all got the same colour). A survivor wins whether they stay purple or if they are recruited to another colour and that colour wins. Green, Yellow and mystery colour are not aligned with the survivors. There's no reason for survivors to help any one group unless it gets too big to fail. Taking out the recruiting factions until there is only one left is the quickest way for survivors to win. We know two yellow faction members and that they are likely the only two. We already killed one green. Trying to find out who else might be green or in the 3rd faction is much harder than killing off the yellow faction. So let's kill the yellow faction and figure out the rest later. I think killing Doug gets two birds with one stone, which is why I prefer to lynch him.

[GM Pancho]

Let's put it without the flavour. You have a green faction, yellow faction, a faction we haven't seen yet and purple survivors (assuming survivors all got the same colour). A survivor wins whether they stay purple or if they are recruited to another colour and that colour wins. Green, Yellow and mystery colour are not aligned with the survivors. There's no reason for survivors to help any one group unless it gets too big to fail. Taking out the recruiting factions until there is only one left is the quickest way for survivors to win. We know two yellow faction members and that they are likely the only two. We already killed one green. Trying to find out who else might be green or in the 3rd faction is much harder than killing off the yellow faction. So let's kill the yellow faction and figure out the rest later. I think killing Doug gets two birds with one stone, which is why I prefer to lynch him.

I think we just need to come to a consensus.  We are choosing between Doug and Bennett. Bennett has referred to himself as the leader in the past [though again that could just be his panache for the flavor again.]  But it is very clear - He was the Day One Holy Church Member.  If it's a standard cult - safe to say we cut the head off and get the recruiter.

[GM Bennett]

Man tells truth but omg it may just be flavor it's a lie!!

Omg let me mod the mod and claim that same guy is influencing the mod to do things he has no control of

Yeah that'll show em!

[GM Dougie]

Survivors have to live to the end.

My win con now is when all threats to humanity are eliminated.

I'm ok with being lynched if it proves a point because I can still win even if I'm dead.

Lynching me might help show that I've been truthful all day and maybe you'll see Bennett should live and help find whatever remaining zombie or possible other supernatural is out there.

[GM Franchise]

Let's put it without the flavour. You have a green faction, yellow faction, a faction we haven't seen yet and purple survivors (assuming survivors all got the same colour). A survivor wins whether they stay purple or if they are recruited to another colour and that colour wins. Green, Yellow and mystery colour are not aligned with the survivors. There's no reason for survivors to help any one group unless it gets too big to fail. Taking out the recruiting factions until there is only one left is the quickest way for survivors to win. We know two yellow faction members and that they are likely the only two. We already killed one green. Trying to find out who else might be green or in the 3rd faction is much harder than killing off the yellow faction. So let's kill the yellow faction and figure out the rest later. I think killing Doug gets two birds with one stone, which is why I prefer to lynch him.

I think we just need to come to a consensus.  We are choosing between Doug and Bennett. Bennett has referred to himself as the leader in the past [though again that could just be his panache for the flavor again.]  But it is very clear - He was the Day One Holy Church Member.  If it's a standard cult - safe to say we cut the head off and get the recruiter.

There are other options, we just have to find them. Bennett clearly isn't the only recruiter in this game and the players who are flying under the radar are where I think is the best place to start looking.

[GM Bennett]

Survivors have to live to the end.

My win con now is when all threats to humanity are eliminated.

I'm ok with being lynched if it proves a point because I can still win even if I'm dead.

Lynching me might help show that I've been truthful all day and maybe you'll see Bennett should live and help find whatever remaining zombie or possible other supernatural is out there.

Damn near want out at this point. The fun of it been sucked out for me and niggas sellin lol

[GM Eli]

Let's put it without the flavour. You have a green faction, yellow faction, a faction we haven't seen yet and purple survivors (assuming survivors all got the same colour). A survivor wins whether they stay purple or if they are recruited to another colour and that colour wins. Green, Yellow and mystery colour are not aligned with the survivors. There's no reason for survivors to help any one group unless it gets too big to fail. Taking out the recruiting factions until there is only one left is the quickest way for survivors to win. We know two yellow faction members and that they are likely the only two. We already killed one green. Trying to find out who else might be green or in the 3rd faction is much harder than killing off the yellow faction. So let's kill the yellow faction and figure out the rest later. I think killing Doug gets two birds with one stone, which is why I prefer to lynch him.

I think we just need to come to a consensus.  We are choosing between Doug and Bennett. Bennett has referred to himself as the leader in the past [though again that could just be his panache for the flavor again.]  But it is very clear - He was the Day One Holy Church Member.  If it's a standard cult - safe to say we cut the head off and get the recruiter.

There are other options, we just have to find them. Bennett clearly isn't the only recruiter in this game and the players who are flying under the radar are where I think is the best place to start looking.

I agree he's not the only recruiter. We know at least one other recruiter is dead. I think the assumption is that once the primary recruiter is dead, if he has managed to get anyone else to join his faction, they then take on the role that he once had. I don't know that for sure, but if I remember right Bennett stated as much earlier on.

I'm fine with a Doug or a Bennett lynch. Though I think they are more survivor adjacent than the zombie faction is, my point for the last few posts has been that we (survivors) don't need the church. The church needs us.

[GM Bennett]

Another night passes in the city of Darkness Falls, who knows what might have happened...

But the residents awake to find the following story on the front page news!

Have Atheists Proved There Is No God?

Recent church claims of supernatural realities have lead atheists to question their trustworthiness. Should we rely on those who believe in an intelligent designer of a world that shows evidence of design, or those who believe everything exploded into existence from nothing? The answer may save or doom mankind. 

It is Day 4. With 11 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is at 8:30pm CST on Tuesday, March 15th.

Vote Count
Name - 0 (Name)

Not Voting: Eli, Doug, Powers, Bennett, Fosters, Oldfield, Franchise, Kirk, Pancho, Justin, Josh

You know what guys...I think Pancho has more power on this game than he's letting on. The Athiest truly run this game and are the ones behind every bit of news and propaganda. We should just quit while we're ahead and let the zombies and whatever tf else is In this game kill us all.

Whose with me?

[GM Bennett]

Did I do that right?

[GM Bennett]

Actually I may actually be onto something there....would be funny af if Athiests are the other factions and their sole purpose is to deny whatever the church does and is running interference that's just gonna lead to them winning by eliminating the church and doesn't give a shit if survivors get turned or killed lol

[GM Pancho]

Survivors have to live to the end.

My win con now is when all threats to humanity are eliminated.

I'm ok with being lynched if it proves a point because I can still win even if I'm dead.

Lynching me might help show that I've been truthful all day and maybe you'll see Bennett should live and help find whatever remaining zombie or possible other supernatural is out there.

Damn near want out at this point. The fun of it been sucked out for me and niggas sellin lol

Don't get mad at others playing to their win conditions.  Don't hate the players. Hate the game.

Another night passes in the city of Darkness Falls, who knows what might have happened...

But the residents awake to find the following story on the front page news!

Have Atheists Proved There Is No God?

Recent church claims of supernatural realities have lead atheists to question their trustworthiness. Should we rely on those who believe in an intelligent designer of a world that shows evidence of design, or those who believe everything exploded into existence from nothing? The answer may save or doom mankind. 

It is Day 4. With 11 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is at 8:30pm CST on Tuesday, March 15th.

Vote Count
Name - 0 (Name)

Not Voting: Eli, Doug, Powers, Bennett, Fosters, Oldfield, Franchise, Kirk, Pancho, Justin, Josh

You know what guys...I think Pancho has more power on this game than he's letting on. The Athiest truly run this game and are the ones behind every bit of news and propaganda. We should just quit while we're ahead and let the zombies and whatever tf else is In this game kill us all.

Whose with me?

... that the Headlines are now NOT the mod just being the mod.

I take back everything I said about the end of Day 2 ... but I'm glad we agree that the starts of the Days have been manipulated.  See we can agree on things. 

[GM Bennett]

Nah just took the fun out the game for me implying a player has power over the damn mod lol and it looking like a damn circle jerk in here. Not mad at you tho just over that bs tho

I don't agree with you that players are making the mod doing anything like telling him to do this and do that. I think the mod is just looking at what the players give him and drop clues within the game for us after taking in what the players have done or revealed during the course of the game and just having fun with it like we're supposed to.

[GM Fosters]

Let's put it without the flavour. You have a green faction, yellow faction, a faction we haven't seen yet and purple survivors (assuming survivors all got the same colour). A survivor wins whether they stay purple or if they are recruited to another colour and that colour wins. Green, Yellow and mystery colour are not aligned with the survivors. There's no reason for survivors to help any one group unless it gets too big to fail. Taking out the recruiting factions until there is only one left is the quickest way for survivors to win. We know two yellow faction members and that they are likely the only two. We already killed one green. Trying to find out who else might be green or in the 3rd faction is much harder than killing off the yellow faction. So let's kill the yellow faction and figure out the rest later. I think killing Doug gets two birds with one stone, which is why I prefer to lynch him.

I can see the value in this reasoning. While I would be happy with a Bennett lynch, Doug to be fair to him has kept me from being recruited and kept me safe as a survivor. But  it's making it difficult to work out where other players allegiances  lie and for that reason...

Vote Doug

[GM Pancho]

Last thing I want is another no lynch.

Unvote

Vote: Doug

[GM Josh]

Church is church.

unvote
Vote: Doug

[GM Franchise]

I don't trust the Church and I damn sure don't trust a lot of what I'm seeing right now. Those three votes in a row literally made me not want to vote for Doug. Josh, your vote is the most suspicious of the three. Church is church comes across as parroting to me. I'll tell y'all what I'm going to do.

Vote: Powers

I think him or Justin are a recruiter and they're flying under the radar to the point where nobody notices. My hunch was right about Ed. I think I'm onto something here as well. Josh is my other suspect after that vote post. The Church is getting a lot of heat but at the same time, as I've been saying, a lot of the heat heading there way is likely being pushed by players lying about their alignment being Survivor. That's what I feel is going on right now and I'm sticking to my guns on this. I'll let the rest of the players join the wagon but I think it's a mistake and we're looking in the wrong the direction currently.

[GM Oldfield]

Unvote

Vote Doug

Voting for someone completely different and refusing to vote for a church member certainly makes franchise look a big suspicious in my eyes. Have you been recruited too?

[GM Kirk]

I am starting to think the same about Franchise. I really don't understand lynching random people trying to find other recruiters instead of lynching the one we already know about and his partner. Why keep the enemy we know alive to chase shadows? I don't care if there is a mystery faction recruiting in the background while we argue about the church because I'll either be recruited and win as one of them or I'll be left alone and win as a survivor.

[GM Kirk]

I would be happy enough to win with the church, but I think they're already losing. Bennett has only managed to get one whereas another group could have added to their numbers every night for all we know.

[GM Oldfield]

I'm hoping by killing patient zero we stop them being able to recruit. I mean I have nothing to base this on, it's more hope than anything.

If the church can 'cure' zombieism just by recruiting that seems overpowered and I'm glad I am not in the zombie faction. Whether the church are an ally or a threat remains to be seen, but right now they ain't the same faction as me so I feel it's important to Eliminate them.

[GM Eli]

Vote: Doug

[GM Dougie]

So I should be lynched.

You'll see upon my lynch that I'm only affiliated with the church and not the zombies.

My theory is that Ed being patient zero was the zombie recruiter and there's at most 1 zombie left if he recruited successfully night 2.

There is possibly another faction out there that we don't know about yet.

My hope is that you'll spare the church and help find the other threats so that I have a chance at my win con. My lynch should show in some ways that I've been truthful about everything THIS day phase. Its up to the rest of ya'll to decide how you want to play the remainder of the game. Good luck!

[GM Evans]

It is Day 4. With 11 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is at 8:30pm CST on Tuesday, March 15th.

Vote Count
Doug - 6 (Kirk, Fosters, Pancho, Josh, Oldfield, Eli)
Pancho - 1 (Bennett)
Powers - 1 ( Franchise)

Not Voting: Doug, Powers, Justin

[GM Bennett]

Only people I have anointed or have attempted to are

Doug - Successful
Pancho - Unsuccessful (Questionable reasons)
Fosters - Blocked via Doug's jail keeper ability or whatever (Franchise confirmed while watching me and seen Stevie visit me in his quest to guess my role and to possibly earn a future kill)

It would be impossible for Franchise to be a member of the church. Stevie and Kirk. As the leader, I am the only person who can anoint/save others. Whether you believe that or not I don't give two fucks at this point.

Powers has been inactive since Day 2 iirc. Justin said that he would give his input but couldn't because he's been busy (whether that's true or he's just flying under the radar as predicted)

In my response to Drew I mentioned that who ever I first anointed/saved they would become the new leader if I were to die. I predicted that may be the same case with the Zombies or whatever other faction in the game not labeled Survivors. That would mean that the threat could still be out there because we don't know if Ed was successful in his other attempts prior to his death.

I could get behind a Powers lynch because of his inactivity and his want to get Fosters lynched and when asked to say why he went disappeared. If you're not looking at that and thinking that's not odd or questionable then it's either you're just playing ignorant to that and aligned with him or you just believe he's too busy irl and not paying attention to the boards.

Same could be said for Justin but I'm not all that sure bout that.

Doug wants to be that guy and sacrifice himself to wake some dumb fucks up, sure that's cool and all. I'm not gonna put my vote on em. I anointed and saved him because he's a strong player and he's the first guy I wanted to be part of the church and know he'd be a good replacement if I were to die. Did I know he was turned into a zombie that first night? No. I'm not the mod I'm not privileged to know what other players are doing or what has been done to that player. But if Ed did in fact infect him prior to me being able to save and cure him? That's a great and important development that I would think survivors would care about. But then again what do I know?

If I were to use Pancho's theory of the headlines meaning more which I do think they reveal clues about the game and we should all be paying close attention to them...THE ATHEISTS were named. Is that a faction and are they directly linked with the Church meaning the Church is their enemy and one of their win cons is to eliminate the church or be naysayers of any member of the church?

That's not something Franchise mentioned but after last night thinking on it and seeing all the thirsty ass votes on Doug I'm not opposed to thinking that may be the case. A mix atheists and zombiee trying to eliminate a threat to their game.

Whether you want to stop and think about that, I don't much care care but I'm gonna do what I have to do and say whatever tf I want.

Also that "church is church" shit is weird af lol tf does that even mean????

[GM Dougie]

@Bennett I protected Pancho night 2 so regardless of his role no one should have been able to do anything.

Thought I was lynched already. My bad.

[GM Eli]

Unvote

[GM Dougie]

You're making a lot of assumptions about your role. As the "head annointer" or whatever you want to call it, there's no literal guarantee whatsoever that if you die that the church could still grow. Typically, a recruiting faction doesn't get to continue recruiting if the recruiter is dead. If you were lynched, my interpretation (right or wrong) would be that I'd just linger around until I'm lynched or if we're lucky enough to eliminate all other threats. Maybe we're in a cult and if you die we all die! I can only operate on my own set of assumptions about how I feel the game is going and hopefully I'm not wrong.

There's definitely in my opinion someone from another faction on my vote. That's for ya'll to decide.

As for the other theories being thrown about in the game, I haven't subscribed too deeply yet into that because I'm trying to save myself while simultaneously in a place where if I'm lynched then I'm lynched. Should I survive today for whatever reason, I'm open to subscribing more to these other theories if it leads us to finding any remaining threats.

[GM Bennett]

You're making a lot of assumptions about your role. As the "head annointer" or whatever you want to call it, there's no literal guarantee whatsoever that if you die that the church could still grow. Typically, a recruiting faction doesn't get to continue recruiting if the recruiter is dead. If you were lynched, my interpretation (right or wrong) would be that I'd just linger around until I'm lynched or if we're lucky enough to eliminate all other threats. Maybe we're in a cult and if you die we all die! I can only operate on my own set of assumptions about how I feel the game is going and hopefully I'm not wrong.

There's definitely in my opinion someone from another faction on my vote. That's for ya'll to decide.

As for the other theories being thrown about in the game, I haven't subscribed too deeply yet into that because I'm trying to save myself while simultaneously in a place where if I'm lynched then I'm lynched. Should I survive today for whatever reason, I'm open to subscribing more to these other theories if it leads us to finding any remaining threats.

It's not an assumption.

[GM Dougie]

Ok that is not helpful because if people are still not trusting of you/the church, they now know that means if you get lynched I can recruit (if what you're saying is true)

But what's worse is that if you are in fact telling the truth about that, it negates the theory about zombies being no longer able to recruit and their faction could in fact still grow.

That is frustrating on so many levels.

[GM Bennett]

Idgaf lol

[GM Dougie]

Its clear someone(s) rubbed you the wrong way this game but it would be appreciated if you played to your win con...

[GM Fosters]

If that wasn't an assumption then what is all that bollocks about the atheist faction?

I can't see it myself.