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GM Lucas

Just catching up

If this has a survival element which we are all assuming for the sake of play, let's take some ideas that were thrown around.

So this is either a game with multiple factions trying to outlive a zombie apocalypse to which, in my knowledge of zombie anything. the factions that stays alive rather zombies exist or not usually wins. THEORY

We could be looking at one faction trying to kill or recruit another while zombies are infecting/recruiting also.

If this is solely a recruitment game where Zombies are just flavor then there is no town or scum. SO stating you are not scum wouldn't mean anything as no one would be scum,

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So, reading back, my only reads of suspicion are recent and has become Franchise and Bennett


Franchise, you Mention that "You will not be voting for Bennett" Seems odd to make that statement when Bennett has all this heat on him, considering you didn't have to make it known you wasn't voting for him unless you were trying to somehow convince others not to vote Bennett and why would you be trying to convince others in a game of supposed Waring factions, recruitment and zombies not to vote someone unless they were in your faction.

Franchise protecting Bennett when it seems like Bennett is about to get "got" seems sus. I think if Bennett turns up a particular faction, Franchise would also be part of it.

Vote Bennett on pure suspicion of Franchise trying to throw heat off of him.

VOTE BENNETT


GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Lucas on March 09, 2022, 09:03:10 AM
Just catching up

If this has a survival element which we are all assuming for the sake of play, let's take some ideas that were thrown around.

So this is either a game with multiple factions trying to outlive a zombie apocalypse to which, in my knowledge of zombie anything. the factions that stays alive rather zombies exist or not usually wins. THEORY

We could be looking at one faction trying to kill or recruit another while zombies are infecting/recruiting also.

If this is solely a recruitment game where Zombies are just flavor then there is no town or scum. SO stating you are not scum wouldn't mean anything as no one would be scum,

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So, reading back, my only reads of suspicion are recent and has become Franchise and Bennett


Franchise, you Mention that "You will not be voting for Bennett" Seems odd to make that statement when Bennett has all this heat on him, considering you didn't have to make it known you wasn't voting for him unless you were trying to somehow convince others not to vote Bennett and why would you be trying to convince others in a game of supposed Waring factions, recruitment and zombies not to vote someone unless they were in your faction.

Franchise protecting Bennett when it seems like Bennett is about to get "got" seems sus. I think if Bennett turns up a particular faction, Franchise would also be part of it.

Vote Bennett on pure suspicion of Franchise trying to throw heat off of him.

VOTE BENNETT

If you think I'm in the Church you'd be wrong. I'm not protecting Bennett, I just think the people saying he's auto-scum are missing the point. The zombies in my opinion are the biggest threat. The Church we know about yes but what's being missed is we don't know the abilities of the Church members or the Zombies so we dint know what they can do. Zombies spread through bites and they can spread more rapidly in this game than the Church can if the characters can recruit. My worst fear is that each zombie can recruit. Hoping I'm wrong but I've seen crazier shit in other games so not looking past that being a possibility. The fact that you're focusing more on me with your vote than actually making facts about Bennett leads me to believe that you have ulterior motives in doing so.

Josh, I think your win scenarios aren't viable with two groups as well as not knowing how many players are in said groups which is why I'm not going for it.

That said...

Vote: Lucas

Spent most if his voting reasoning making it about me instead of the person he was voting for, Bennett. If anyone doesn't think I'm a Survivor by all means target me tonight. I have nothing to hide unlike some of you.

GM Oldfield

To be honest I feel the survivors can't just 'survive'. I think we need to eliminate the church and the zombies. Josh's comments were odd, I'd like to see him expand his theory, but for now I think we go with what we know.

Vote Bennett

GM Dougie

As Bennett is currently 1 away from being hammered, I just want to bring this up.

Quote from: GM Bennett on March 07, 2022, 10:35:56 PM
Only way I win is if all threats to humanity are eliminated.

Quote from: GM Oldfield on March 09, 2022, 11:41:11 AM
To be honest I feel the survivors can't just 'survive'. I think we need to eliminate the church and the zombies.

So a lot of what I'm thinking solely depends on the truth of Bennett's win condition. I don't think there's any question at this point he's holy church, yellow name is what we're being told, etc.

If the win condition is true (and yes we have no public way of verifying that on a lynch) then that type of wording would suggest that survivors CAN survive with the holy church. However they may not survive with the zombies.

I want every survivor to go look at their win con before ending this day phase. From mafiascum.net you can find the general wording of a survivor role:

"A Survivor is a lone player whose goal is to live until any other faction achieves their Win Condition"

Our survivor win conditions are not worded like that. Essentially without quoting the mod, it just says stay alive. Bennett's claimed win condition certainly seems like we can achieve our win condition WITH the holy church one IF he's telling the truth.

However, we know nothing about the zombies...doubt they will claim for obvious reasons...and if their win con is something like...infect all the players for example...then survivors cannot survive with that faction.

This all goes back to 2 things...truth telling (which we can never count on) and the mod's experimental game. It is my speculation that survivors either need to eliminate both factions or just eliminate the zombies in order to win this game. That is my opinion alone and you may dissect that however you wish.

GM Pancho

Quote from: GM Dougie on March 09, 2022, 01:59:09 PM
As Bennett is currently 1 away from being hammered, I just want to bring this up.

Quote from: GM Bennett on March 07, 2022, 10:35:56 PM
Only way I win is if all threats to humanity are eliminated.

Quote from: GM Oldfield on March 09, 2022, 11:41:11 AM
To be honest I feel the survivors can't just 'survive'. I think we need to eliminate the church and the zombies.

So a lot of what I'm thinking solely depends on the truth of Bennett's win condition. I don't think there's any question at this point he's holy church, yellow name is what we're being told, etc.

If the win condition is true (and yes we have no public way of verifying that on a lynch) then that type of wording would suggest that survivors CAN survive with the holy church. However they may not survive with the zombies.

I want every survivor to go look at their win con before ending this day phase. From mafiascum.net you can find the general wording of a survivor role:

"A Survivor is a lone player whose goal is to live until any other faction achieves their Win Condition"

Our survivor win conditions are not worded like that. Essentially without quoting the mod, it just says stay alive. Bennett's claimed win condition certainly seems like we can achieve our win condition WITH the holy church one IF he's telling the truth.

However, we know nothing about the zombies...doubt they will claim for obvious reasons...and if their win con is something like...infect all the players for example...then survivors cannot survive with that faction.

This all goes back to 2 things...truth telling (which we can never count on) and the mod's experimental game. It is my speculation that survivors either need to eliminate both factions or just eliminate the zombies in order to win this game. That is my opinion alone and you may dissect that however you wish.

As a Survivor and re reading my win condition at your request that is simply false.  Which makes me wonder - do ALL survivors have the same survivor win condition?  That would be an interesting game mechanic.

I bring it up because Josh has claimed survivor but has been steadfast in killing off the Holy Church member and I thought that read more like a lyncher [though it may be because I don't ever see Josh get that aggressive for a lynch].  Frankly, if that's the case for Josh him meeting his win condition doesn't prevent my own so it's really no big thing but perhaps speak to a bigger game mechanic as a whole.


GM Franchise

Mine says I win if I'm alive at the end of the game. I'd rather take out the zombie faction because that's the one I feel will recruit the fastest. Basically if the Church is helping humanity its pointless to vote out Bennett. Church and Survivors need to team up to eliminate the zombies which in my opinion is still the best case scenario to win going by what I'm seeing with the win conditions posted already. That is if Bennett is telling the truth about his win condition of course.

GM Evans

#106
Vote Count
Bennett - 6 (Fosters, Pancho, Josh, Kirk, Ed, Oldfield)
Ed - 1 (Franchise)

Not Voting: Eli, Doug, Powers, Bennett, Justin

It is now Night 2. Please submit any night actions you might have promptly. Deadline is at 5:00pm CST on Friday, March 11th.

If you have an active ability and do not wish to use it, please let me know right away.

GM Evans

Another night passes in the city of Darkness Falls, who knows what might have happened...

But the residents awake to find the following story on the front page news!

QuoteWho Ya Gonna Call: Church alleges supernatural creatures are real.

In a confusing message to all, a leader of the Holy Church has claimed demons, zombies, and other beasts are real but could not elaborate further. This author wonders if the Stay Puft man is next. Let's hope the church remembers not to cross the streams.

It is Day 3. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is at 5:00pm CST on Sunday, March 13th.

Vote Count
Name - 0 (Name)

Not Voting: Eli, Doug, Ed, Powers, Bennett, Fosters, Oldfield, Franchise, Kirk, Pancho, Justin, Josh

GM Franchise

Pancho, did anything happen to you last night?

GM Bennett

Quote from: GM Franchise on March 10, 2022, 05:52:28 PM
Pancho, did anything happen to you last night?

Interesting you say this because I was trying to save Pancho last night and was unsuccessful but was given an item instead that assists in my duties of saving humanity.

Quote from: GM Kirk on March 09, 2022, 01:44:28 AM
This is the interesting thing about the game and maybe a flaw in the design: there's no incentive for the survivor group to lynch unless we know for a fact that someone is not a survivor. And we only really want to lynch them to speed up our win-con. Until we see a night kill, there's not much incentive to actively hunt for the "others." I agree with Josh that we take them out when we find them, so we can get rid of the risk that they do have a kill, but I'm not jumping on lynches based on maybes.

Quote from: GM Josh on March 08, 2022, 09:03:22 PM
Sorry for the late response. Been a hectic last few days.

From my understanding with a survivor game, we win no matter which faction wins in something like this as long as we're still alive. We know Bennett is not a survivor and thus not town. Remove him and try and find the rest of any holy church members if there are any. If not could be a quick survivor win if we can win with the zombies. Worst case here, lynching Bennett doesn't end it and we need to eliminate the zombies as well.

For the record, I don't have the ability to kill anyone. I can only save people who are human at night.

If my theory is correct, if I'm unable to to save someone it's either I was blocked from doing so or the person I tried to help isn't human. It's one or the other.




The newspaper headline for today is quite interesting. Not sure if it's suggesting there are more creatures than just Zombies in this game or what? If there are more creatures than just the zombies would that mean there's more than one supernatural faction or is a singular faction with supernaturals that are targeting humans?? I may just be reaching and it might just be added flavor and mystery but I just find it interesting.

GM Bennett

Also going to be taking my own advice and be extra leery of those that were gunning heavy for me once my role was exposed. Backreading it all, didn't quite sit right with me.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Bennett on March 10, 2022, 07:02:53 PM
Quote from: GM Franchise on March 10, 2022, 05:52:28 PM
Pancho, did anything happen to you last night?

Interesting you say this because I was trying to save Pancho last night and was unsuccessful but was given an item instead that assists in my duties of saving humanity.

Interesting because Ed visited Pancho last night so something clearly is going on there and my hunch about Ed is likely correct going by the information that you shared.

GM Kirk

So Ed is probably a zombie who recruited Pancho and that's why Bennett couldn't recruit Pancho?

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Kirk on March 10, 2022, 08:37:41 PM
So Ed is probably a zombie who recruited Pancho and that's why Bennett couldn't recruit Pancho?

Possibly. In all scenarios Ed is either a zombie or supernatural entity.

Vote: Ed

I feel strong enough to keep my vote where it is.

GM Lucas

Three things are certain in life, Death, Taxes and if you accuse Franchise he will revenge vote you and won't let up

Kirk, All that stuff would be interesting about me be a zombie and recruiting Pancho if I wasn't blocked when I went to visit Pancho to see if he had a role and what was it. I was curious to know why Pancho wasn't targeted night 1. He always seems to be on the top of everyone's list when he's town. No one questioning him or nothing happening to him lead me to want to check him to see if he was scum/zombie/monster but I was unsuccessful

Franchise doubling down against me and quickly voting me means he wants me out quick, makes me think I was on to something about him last time but we'll continue to uncover this.

GM Bennett

Wait, so are you saying and Fosters have the same ability?

Because as of right now it's either you're telling the truth, and something strange happened as to where neither you could investigate and I couldn't save him, or he was turned by you or someone else if he wasn't already?

I have no reason to doubt Franchise at this point in time but these developments are all quite interesting to take in.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Lucas on March 10, 2022, 08:56:15 PM
Three things are certain in life, Death, Taxes and if you accuse Franchise he will revenge vote you and won't let up

Kirk, All that stuff would be interesting about me be a zombie and recruiting Pancho if I wasn't blocked when I went to visit Pancho to see if he had a role and what was it. I was curious to know why Pancho wasn't targeted night 1. He always seems to be on the top of everyone's list when he's town. No one questioning him or nothing happening to him lead me to want to check him to see if he was scum/zombie/monster but I was unsuccessful

Franchise doubling down against me and quickly voting me means he wants me out quick, makes me think I was on to something about him last time but we'll continue to uncover this.

You were not blocked. I got specific information that said you visited Pancho. There was nothing about anyone targeting you. I got information about who you targeted and who targeted you. You targeted Pancho and no one targeted you. You are lying about what happened in the night phase therefore are likely to be scum.

GM Kirk

For Ed to be telling the truth, we would have to believe that not only does he have the same role as Fosters, but Pancho has the same role as Doug.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Kirk on March 10, 2022, 09:43:10 PM
For Ed to be telling the truth, we would have to believe that not only does he have the same role as Fosters, but Pancho has the same role as Doug.

He's not the telling the truth and to be blunt if he's not supernatural or a zombie y'all can vote me out the next day phase. I'm calling his bluff.

GM Evans

It is Day 3. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is at 5:00pm CST on Sunday, March 13th.

Vote Count
Ed - 1 (Franchise)

Not Voting: Eli, Doug, Ed, Powers, Bennett, Fosters, Oldfield, Kirk, Pancho, Justin, Josh

GM Pancho

This is going to be a long post so bear with me as I have a lot of things to address.

Quote from: GM Franchise on March 10, 2022, 05:52:28 PM
Pancho, did anything happen to you last night?

My role does not notify me if someone targeted me - so I wouldn't know. But I'm about to be the most targeted player in the world - and not in the normal way.

Quote from: GM Bennett on March 10, 2022, 07:02:53 PM
Quote from: GM Franchise on March 10, 2022, 05:52:28 PM
Pancho, did anything happen to you last night?

Interesting you say this because I was trying to save Pancho last night and was unsuccessful but was given an item instead that assists in my duties of saving humanity.

For the record, I don't have the ability to kill anyone. I can only save people who are human at night.

If my theory is correct, if I'm unable to to save someone it's either I was blocked from doing so or the person I tried to help isn't human. It's one or the other.




The newspaper headline for today is quite interesting. Not sure if it's suggesting there are more creatures than just Zombies in this game or what? If there are more creatures than just the zombies would that mean there's more than one supernatural faction or is a singular faction with supernaturals that are targeting humans?? I may just be reaching and it might just be added flavor and mystery but I just find it interesting.

1. Bennett just pretty much outed my role.  Doug hinted at some of us having passive abilities - and I put a lot of faith into what he has been saying because it speaks to my role a lot.  I have a bribery role.  I'm a survivor that wants to stay alive so bad I give out items to people who visit me so I can survive.

2. Why is Bennett pretending his Church didn't have a role to put that in the write up?  Considering there was no news the first night but all of a sudden their is a news headline reads like a power role to me and not something flavour provided by the mod.  THESE ARE BIG RED FLAGS FOR ME AND WHY I DON'T TRUST BENNETT OR THE WAY HE TALKS ABOUT WHAT THE INTENT OF HIS HOLY CHURCH ARE. 

Quote from: GM Bennett on March 10, 2022, 07:07:08 PM
Also going to be taking my own advice and be extra leery of those that were gunning heavy for me once my role was exposed. Backreading it all, didn't quite sit right with me.

Followed by a double post to push off any lynch.  I don't know what the holy church is - nor will I assume it's "town" driven [though that may be my atheistic nature to distrust a church role].  But so far the way Bennett has been talking - does not make me trust him or his faction at all.  But we may have bigger fish to fry.

Quote from: GM Kirk on March 10, 2022, 08:37:41 PM
So Ed is probably a zombie who recruited Pancho and that's why Bennett couldn't recruit Pancho?

If we are going by Bennett's statement about his role [and like I said I don't trust him so it's fair to ignore] A zombie recruitment could not have happened as he would have saved me.  Instead Bennett is saying he was unsuccessful but still received an item.  Hold that thought for one second.

Quote from: GM Lucas on March 10, 2022, 08:56:15 PM
Three things are certain in life, Death, Taxes and if you accuse Franchise he will revenge vote you and won't let up

Kirk, All that stuff would be interesting about me be a zombie and recruiting Pancho if I wasn't blocked when I went to visit Pancho to see if he had a role and what was it. I was curious to know why Pancho wasn't targeted night 1. He always seems to be on the top of everyone's list when he's town. No one questioning him or nothing happening to him lead me to want to check him to see if he was scum/zombie/monster but I was unsuccessful

Franchise doubling down against me and quickly voting me means he wants me out quick, makes me think I was on to something about him last time but we'll continue to uncover this.

Ed makes no notion of receiving any item ... something that even if he was unsuccessful he would have received because that is exactly what happened to Bennett [which is in line with my role].  The fact that he is not forward with said statement means he jumps the line to the top of my suspicion list.

I'm actually in agreeance with Franchise. Help me now, jeebuz.

VOTE: ED

Quote from: GM Kirk on March 10, 2022, 09:43:10 PM
For Ed to be telling the truth, we would have to believe that not only does he have the same role as Fosters, but Pancho has the same role as Doug.

If I read back correctly - Doug said his role prevents him from being recruited.  My role is different than that but the goal is the same. Survive.

GM Lucas

Pancho-I did receive an item, just didn't think it was important to mention considering someone already used that. Didn't want to come off as band wagon.

Franchise-I never said I was blocked, I said I was unsuccessful.

It is clear we have three factions. super natural, Human(faction or survivors) and a third party group. the question is why was I unsuccessful. My role says survive as human or other which tells me if I got recruited/infected, transformed I could still be part of winning team. It also told me that if I was recruited I wouldn't know who recruited me or have communication with them so I would still be in the dark.

SO now everyone ask yourself, did I recruit pancho and he is trying to create distance by throwing me under the bus knowing people tend to follow his lead, get me lynched, say ooops and then win us the game?

Are we getting to close and Pancho is a baddy which is why no one could spy/see/visit him so he throws me under the bus as bait, then when I come up clean he targets Franchise next.

Did Franchise recruit Pancho night 1 which is why Franchise has so much information on night two so Pancho takes the lead in voting me?

Did bennett survive long enough to recruit Pancho in the last night phase?

I personally have no more information then what I gave out.


GM Pancho

Quote from: GM Lucas on March 10, 2022, 08:56:15 PM
Three things are certain in life, Death, Taxes and if you accuse Franchise he will revenge vote you and won't let up

Kirk, All that stuff would be interesting about me be a zombie and recruiting Pancho if I wasn't blocked when I went to visit Pancho to see if he had a role and what was it. I was curious to know why Pancho wasn't targeted night 1. He always seems to be on the top of everyone's list when he's town. No one questioning him or nothing happening to him lead me to want to check him to see if he was scum/zombie/monster but I was unsuccessful

Franchise doubling down against me and quickly voting me means he wants me out quick, makes me think I was on to something about him last time but we'll continue to uncover this.

Quote from: GM Lucas on March 10, 2022, 11:04:49 PM
Pancho-I did receive an item, just didn't think it was important to mention considering someone already used that. Didn't want to come off as band wagon.

Franchise-I never said I was blocked, I said I was unsuccessful.

It is clear we have three factions. super natural, Human(faction or survivors) and a third party group. the question is why was I unsuccessful. My role says survive as human or other which tells me if I got recruited/infected, transformed I could still be part of winning team. It also told me that if I was recruited I wouldn't know who recruited me or have communication with them so I would still be in the dark.

SO now everyone ask yourself, did I recruit pancho and he is trying to create distance by throwing me under the bus knowing people tend to follow his lead, get me lynched, say ooops and then win us the game?

Are we getting to close and Pancho is a baddy which is why no one could spy/see/visit him so he throws me under the bus as bait, then when I come up clean he targets Franchise next.

Did Franchise recruit Pancho night 1 which is why Franchise has so much information on night two so Pancho takes the lead in voting me?

Did bennett survive long enough to recruit Pancho in the last night phase?

I personally have no more information then what I gave out.



Lynch all liars baby! WHOOOOOO!!!

Btw Ed you have more information to give.  You could tell us what power/item you were given.  Same for Bennett - especially if those items are specific to supernatural entities [like ones not notified yet].  Something else that I found odd from the "News headline" it only mentioned factions so far discussed in thread.  I don't know if there are more but IF there are - Again leads me to believe that it was a player power and not mod facts.

GM Franchise

How can your night action be unsuccessful when you visited Pancho and NO ONE other than me targeted you?

You're caught, period. No way to slither your way out of this one without digging yourself a bigger hole.

GM Kirk

If Doug and Pancho can't be recruited and there's no killing role, they've already won. They're not going to be lynched and they win with any faction. Congratulations.

Ed, none of what you just said makes any sense. My role doesn't say survive as human or other, so I think you're making it up. You clearly tried to recruit Pancho and you were caught red handed.

Vote: Ed

GM Bennett

Quote from: GM Pancho on March 10, 2022, 10:35:56 PM
1. Bennett just pretty much outed my role.  Doug hinted at some of us having passive abilities - and I put a lot of faith into what he has been saying because it speaks to my role a lot.  I have a bribery role.  I'm a survivor that wants to stay alive so bad I give out items to people who visit me so I can survive.

2. Why is Bennett pretending his Church didn't have a role to put that in the write up?  Considering there was no news the first night but all of a sudden their is a news headline reads like a power role to me and not something flavour provided by the mod.  THESE ARE BIG RED FLAGS FOR ME AND WHY I DON'T TRUST BENNETT OR THE WAY HE TALKS ABOUT WHAT THE INTENT OF HIS HOLY CHURCH ARE. 

Quote from: GM Bennett on March 10, 2022, 07:07:08 PM
Also going to be taking my own advice and be extra leery of those that were gunning heavy for me once my role was exposed. Backreading it all, didn't quite sit right with me.

Followed by a double post to push off any lynch.  I don't know what the holy church is - nor will I assume it's "town" driven [though that may be my atheistic nature to distrust a church role].  But so far the way Bennett has been talking - does not make me trust him or his faction at all.  But we may have bigger fish to fry.

Quote from: GM Kirk on March 10, 2022, 08:37:41 PM
So Ed is probably a zombie who recruited Pancho and that's why Bennett couldn't recruit Pancho?

If we are going by Bennett's statement about his role [and like I said I don't trust him so it's fair to ignore] A zombie recruitment could not have happened as he would have saved me.  Instead Bennett is saying he was unsuccessful but still received an item.  Hold that thought for one second.

1. Didn't mean to out your role, but it's good to know why I was unable to save you and was given this item.

2. I have no control on what the mod puts up or any knowledge of anything that was said in the headline. I only learned about a zombie faction the previous day. I was clearly stating how I thought it was interesting to see what was said and it made me brain storm on what it could possibly mean. If that's a knock on me then so be it I guess but I'm just being completely honest with everyone and forthcoming with every bit of information that I am capable of giving.

3. To suggest I have any power other than what I have already stated or the power to make the mod post something is ridiculous to me. The Holy Church is the Holy Church that just keeps people safe nothing more, nothing less. And for the record, I can't even communicate with anyone other than myself and who I tell the mod I want to try and save for the night. If I had to give an example of who my character is similar to in this game it would be Van Helsing, but a man of the cloth who wants to protect humanity. I am able to save people as I have stated already.

4. I have no regrets on being paranoid about how people treat me after my role was revealed. I'm surprised I even survived the night with what was revealed.

5. With what Pancho has now presented along with what Franchise has stated. Comparing all that to what Ed has said, it would seem to me it doesn't quite add up. One too many contradictions there.

GM Lucas

Ok, you pointed out I said blocked, I also said unsuccessful. I was never blocked, I was unsuccessful. let's not get caught up in the semantics.

I got a silver Bullet.

GM Bennett


GM Bennett

Quote from: GM Pancho on March 10, 2022, 11:11:44 PM
Quote from: GM Lucas on March 10, 2022, 08:56:15 PM
Three things are certain in life, Death, Taxes and if you accuse Franchise he will revenge vote you and won't let up

Kirk, All that stuff would be interesting about me be a zombie and recruiting Pancho if I wasn't blocked when I went to visit Pancho to see if he had a role and what was it. I was curious to know why Pancho wasn't targeted night 1. He always seems to be on the top of everyone's list when he's town. No one questioning him or nothing happening to him lead me to want to check him to see if he was scum/zombie/monster but I was unsuccessful

Franchise doubling down against me and quickly voting me means he wants me out quick, makes me think I was on to something about him last time but we'll continue to uncover this.

Quote from: GM Lucas on March 10, 2022, 11:04:49 PM
Pancho-I did receive an item, just didn't think it was important to mention considering someone already used that. Didn't want to come off as band wagon.

Franchise-I never said I was blocked, I said I was unsuccessful.

It is clear we have three factions. super natural, Human(faction or survivors) and a third party group. the question is why was I unsuccessful. My role says survive as human or other which tells me if I got recruited/infected, transformed I could still be part of winning team. It also told me that if I was recruited I wouldn't know who recruited me or have communication with them so I would still be in the dark.

SO now everyone ask yourself, did I recruit pancho and he is trying to create distance by throwing me under the bus knowing people tend to follow his lead, get me lynched, say ooops and then win us the game?

Are we getting to close and Pancho is a baddy which is why no one could spy/see/visit him so he throws me under the bus as bait, then when I come up clean he targets Franchise next.

Did Franchise recruit Pancho night 1 which is why Franchise has so much information on night two so Pancho takes the lead in voting me?

Did bennett survive long enough to recruit Pancho in the last night phase?

I personally have no more information then what I gave out.



Lynch all liars baby! WHOOOOOO!!!

Btw Ed you have more information to give.  You could tell us what power/item you were given.  Same for Bennett - especially if those items are specific to supernatural entities [like ones not notified yet].  Something else that I found odd from the "News headline" it only mentioned factions so far discussed in thread.  I don't know if there are more but IF there are - Again leads me to believe that it was a player power and not mod facts.

I was given syringe with something that prevents the user from being turned. Didn't specify turned into what though, so the news headline made me more curious along with what I was given which made me wonder if there was more supernatural factions than just the Zombies or just one singular supernatural faction.

GM Lucas

If I was trying to recruit Pancho why would I be given anything.

My message told me that my attempt to gather information was unsuccessful. But in doing so I obtained a silver bullet I could use if I was targeted at night to be turned.

That is it. I didn't try and find out information on night 1 on Pancho, I actually investigated Bennett but I didn't DM it so it didn't count. I did that because I thought Pancho would clearly be targeted the first night and didn't want to waist an investigation on someone who would probably die early, especially after he went hard on Bennett but Bennett survived. Let's not get hung up on the words blocked and unsuccessful.

I have nothing left. This went from Bennett and Me pointing out Franchise, him spinning it. Bennett gonna do what ever it takes to not get the heat put on him again. Not sure what pancho's gig is, I am starting to think that Pancho is a supernatural and didn't like me looking into him and he was probably turned night 1 by Franchise. But other then that...That is all I got.

(Side note, no matter what happens, please don't quote walls and walls of threads, makes it unemployable to keep up)

GM Lucas

Also, if I was given a silver bullet I have to think there are also werewolves in this game which could be the third or dare I say fourth faction.

GM Pancho

Quote from: GM Bennett on March 11, 2022, 12:01:23 AM

1. Didn't mean to out your role, but it's good to know why I was unable to save you and was given this item.

2. I have no control on what the mod puts up or any knowledge of anything that was said in the headline. I only learned about a zombie faction the previous day. I was clearly stating how I thought it was interesting to see what was said and it made me brain storm on what it could possibly mean. If that's a knock on me then so be it I guess but I'm just being completely honest with everyone and forthcoming with every bit of information that I am capable of giving.

3. To suggest I have any power other than what I have already stated or the power to make the mod post something is ridiculous to me. The Holy Church is the Holy Church that just keeps people safe nothing more, nothing less. And for the record, I can't even communicate with anyone other than myself and who I tell the mod I want to try and save for the night. If I had to give an example of who my character is similar to in this game it would be Van Helsing, but a man of the cloth who wants to protect humanity. I am able to save people as I have stated already.

It's comment like these that make me raise my eyebrows.  Specifically the statement of "I only learned about a zombie faction the previous day."  It really sounds like you are explaining why there was a headline on Day 3 and not Day 2 - - - only to refute that you don't have that power, and are working alone.

Quote from: GM Dougie on March 08, 2022, 08:21:06 AM
Ok lets just get this out there...of course I know more but I was trying not to leak it all.

The other faction is zombies. Both tried to recruit me last night. Both failed...it had to do with my passive ability which I'm not revealing but many of you should understand (my assumption is some of you survivors also have an ability take Fosters for example)
So the reason I'm not voting Bennett yet is because Holy Church vs Zombies...Zombie in name alone sounds like an anti-town faction more than holy church does.

To be fair, that's speculation at best because for all we know...zombies could have the more town-like thing in this game. But if Bennett is telling the truth about his win-con, then I won't be voting for him.

Doug just said he was attempted to be recruited by The Holy Church and Zombies.  Sooooooo - one of you mofos is definitely lying.  Considering what Douglas has said about his role I am inclined right now to give him more cred than you at the moment.

Ed admitting his silver bullet is definitely the reason he should be lynched ASAP - I don't trust him with a killing role though I do agree that a Silver Bullet definitely implies Werewolves.

Quote from: GM Lucas on March 11, 2022, 12:33:12 AM
Also, if I was given a silver bullet I have to think there are also werewolves in this game which could be the third or dare I say fourth faction.

Since survivors aren't a faction and we don't win together the inclusion of your statement of a fourth faction implies to me you are a third faction. Only way to know is to lynch you.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Lucas on March 11, 2022, 12:01:48 AM
Ok, you pointed out I said blocked, I also said unsuccessful. I was never blocked, I was unsuccessful. let's not get caught up in the semantics.

I got a silver Bullet.

If it was unsuccessful then how come my information flat out says that you visited him? What I got back directly contradicts what you're claiming that's why I'm not buying it.

GM Bennett

Ed, what you said is all over the place. Pairing that with what has been pointed out so far I don't see a reason to believe what you're saying. You've contradicted yourself + with the info Franchise has on you specifically negates what it is you are claiming. You're saying you were blocked one moment, then wasn't blocked the next just that what you tried to do to Pancho was unsuccessful. Now you're claiming you tried to investigate me even though Fosters has already investigated me + revealed my role. I just don't see the logic behind that. And Pancho didn't "go hard" on me imo, he was fair in his questioning after Fosters revealed who I was. Today he's going hard on me but compared to yesterday no he wasn't in my honest opinion.

Pancho, I don't have anything to hide or lie about. I've told you everything that I could, take it how ever you like.

Silver can be used for both werewolves & vampires.

GM Fosters

I profiled Franchise last night and he is a survivor.

Ed is coming across as a non survivor to me... whether that's a zombie, a werewolf or a bogeyman...

Vote Ed

GM Oldfield

Wow that's a lot of info to take in.

I am still uneasy about the church. That will never change. Maybe it's me. But out of all these affiliations they seem the most town focused. What's clear is that Ed tried to recruit Pancho, and he's not the church, so he's got to go.

Vote Ed

GM Eli

Going by Franchise calling Ed out as a liar and Fosters clearing him, I feel like he's the best choice for a lynch.

Vote: Ed

GM Eli

And by him I mean Fosters clearing Franchise, in case that needed clarifying.

GM Dougie

Vote: Ed

Though he may already be lynched.

GM Evans

It is Day 3. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is at 5:00pm CST on Sunday, March 13th.

Vote Count
Ed - 7 (Franchise, Pancho, Kirk, Bennett, Fosters, Oldfield, Eli)

Not Voting: Doug, Ed, Powers, Justin, Josh


A majority has been reached, hold for write up.

GM Evans

"We've got him in a glass case right now," a voice says quietly into a phone, before glancing toward the large glass room across the massive warehouse he finds himself in and shouting at someone near it. "DON'T TOUCH IT! Minimize risks here, people."

The man near the case quickly recoils from touching the glass wall, but the figure inside the room-in-a-room just shakes his head, arms folded.

"I'm telling you, guys. You've got it all wrong," the figure says.

"You know, he's got a point, boss. He don't much look like a Zombie. And, how come he can talk?"

"I don't know the rules. All I know is that he's the most likely candidate to be Patient Zero. He's the reason this infection is spreading. He's the man we need to kill."

"We're going to kill him on a most likely?"

"Shut up."

The two men grow quiet, as the figure inside the case begins to get antsy hearing this conversation. He paces back and forth, shaking his head and talking to himself. Some time passes, before a fourth person enters the warehouse. Her heels click along the floor as she crosses the wide warehouse with purpose. As she reaches the glass room, she opens the door...

The figure inside lunges at her, but her reflexes are quicker, producing a gun and putting a bullet right through his head.





















DEAD: Ed - Patient Zero | Zombie Horde | The Zombie - KILLED DAY 3

It is now Night 3. Please submit any night actions you might have promptly. Deadline is at 9:00am CST on Sunday, March 13th.

If you have an active ability and do not wish to use it, please let me know right away.

GM Evans

Another night passes in the city of Darkness Falls, who knows what might have happened...

But the residents awake to find the following story on the front page news!

QuoteHave Atheists Proved There Is No God?

Recent church claims of supernatural realities have lead atheists to question their trustworthiness. Should we rely on those who believe in an intelligent designer of a world that shows evidence of design, or those who believe everything exploded into existence from nothing? The answer may save or doom mankind. 

It is Day 4. With 11 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is at 8:30pm CST on Tuesday, March 15th.

Vote Count
Name - 0 (Name)

Not Voting: Eli, Doug, Powers, Bennett, Fosters, Oldfield, Franchise, Kirk, Pancho, Justin, Josh

GM Bennett

I wanted to try and save Fosters last night, did not use the syringe that I got from Pancho that helps prevents the person from turning. My attempt to save him was deemed a no go (unsuccessful)

Not sure what that may mean but i wanted to save him after he exposed Ed for what he was and felt he may have been targeted last night by the supernatural for doing so.

Other than that I don't have any other developments.

GM Fosters

I'm not sure why Bennett... I tried to profile Doug last night but I was unsuccessful, not sure if I was blocked or not?

GM Bennett

Quote from: GM Fosters on March 12, 2022, 09:48:05 PM
I'm not sure why Bennett... I tried to profile Doug last night but I was unsuccessful, not sure if I was blocked or not?

This makes things stranger then. It would seem both of us were blocked from doing anything to help after a zombie in this case patient 0 was taken down.

GM Kirk

My theory is Ed was actually successful in recruiting Doug night 1 and then Doug recruited Fosters last night.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Bennett on March 12, 2022, 09:36:14 PM
I wanted to try and save Fosters last night, did not use the syringe that I got from Pancho that helps prevents the person from turning. My attempt to save him was deemed a no go (unsuccessful)

Not sure what that may mean but i wanted to save him after he exposed Ed for what he was and felt he may have been targeted last night by the supernatural for doing so.

Other than that I don't have any other developments.

I can verify this. You targeted Fosters and Oldfield targeted you.

GM Bennett

Quote from: GM Franchise on March 12, 2022, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: GM Bennett on March 12, 2022, 09:36:14 PM
I wanted to try and save Fosters last night, did not use the syringe that I got from Pancho that helps prevents the person from turning. My attempt to save him was deemed a no go (unsuccessful)

Not sure what that may mean but i wanted to save him after he exposed Ed for what he was and felt he may have been targeted last night by the supernatural for doing so.

Other than that I don't have any other developments.

I can verify this. You targeted Fosters and Oldfield targeted you.

Definitely gonna need Oldfield to explain why he targeted me. Which my theory about me and Fosters being blocked may seem to be true from what I'm gathering so far.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Bennett on March 12, 2022, 11:51:46 PM
Quote from: GM Franchise on March 12, 2022, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: GM Bennett on March 12, 2022, 09:36:14 PM
I wanted to try and save Fosters last night, did not use the syringe that I got from Pancho that helps prevents the person from turning. My attempt to save him was deemed a no go (unsuccessful)

Not sure what that may mean but i wanted to save him after he exposed Ed for what he was and felt he may have been targeted last night by the supernatural for doing so.

Other than that I don't have any other developments.

I can verify this. You targeted Fosters and Oldfield targeted you.

Definitely gonna need Oldfield to explain why he targeted me. Which my theory about me and Fosters being blocked may seem to be true from what I'm gathering so far.

My role was unsuccessful night 1 so likely I was blocked.

GM Oldfield

Ok so without going too much into the mechanics of my role I'm a survivor huntsmen (fosters can profile me).

Each night I can select a player and 'guess' their affiliation. I've not been great at it so far. If successful i receive either weapon or ammo. Once I have both, I can do a night kill the following night.

Night 1 I guessed Kirk was a zombie (sorry Kirk)
Night 2 i guessed Doug was a survivor.
Night 3 I guessed Bennett was a church member.

The only time I've been successful is last night. I received a silver bullet. So I don't know what thrat means about Doug. With his passive ability of being able to resist anything at night, my guess would be werewolf