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[GM Dougie]

My that's a quick agreement between the two people I find the most suspicious ...

For clarification...Me and Franchise? Where anywhere did you say you were suspicious of Franchise?

Your vote is on Oldfield. He and I didn't argue.

I'm your common denominator. And you're not voting for me. This feels like you're just setting it up where if you get Oldfield lynched and he doesn't flip your way that you've already got someone else to push. If you were really adamant about one of your reads, you should be voting for me instead of Oldfield.

Perhaps you are the better vote than Fosters today. I just don't like that he's literally contributed nothing and no one gives a damn?

From the rules: 10. 3 strike rule for inactivity. If you go 72 game hours without posting, you'll get a prod. You then have 24 hours to post in game or it's a 2nd prod. 24 hours more of no activity results in being removed from the game.

Either we're at this point by now or he's active in the game another way hence why I'm hesitant to move off of where I am.

[GM Pancho]

My that's a quick agreement between the two people I find the most suspicious ...

For clarification...Me and Franchise? Where anywhere did you say you were suspicious of Franchise?

Your vote is on Oldfield. He and I didn't argue.

I'm your common denominator. And you're not voting for me. This feels like you're just setting it up where if you get Oldfield lynched and he doesn't flip your way that you've already got someone else to push. If you were really adamant about one of your reads, you should be voting for me instead of Oldfield.

Perhaps you are the better vote than Fosters today. I just don't like that he's literally contributed nothing and no one gives a damn?

From the rules: 10. 3 strike rule for inactivity. If you go 72 game hours without posting, you'll get a prod. You then have 24 hours to post in game or it's a 2nd prod. 24 hours more of no activity results in being removed from the game.

Either we're at this point by now or he's active in the game another way hence why I'm hesitant to move off of where I am.

You misconstrue what I say - Top two negative reads are you and Oldfield - as I stated when I voted Oldfield and did that throwback Finger of Suspicion on you.  The agreement was you proposing the Fosters and Evans as your "vote because they are quiet"

Right after that he votes Evans. 

Just musing out loud how it "looks" coordinated when you had some steam behind mine and Franchises two votes. In a game with no activity that might be enough of a smokescreen.  I do agree with Evans point about killing Kirk Day 1. He's good but he's stubborn and not easily manipulated.

[GM Dougie]

I actually misread. I thought you said argument. Not agreement. I own that fault.

[GM Lucas]

VOTES
Pancho - 1 - (Oldfield)
Franchise - 1 - (Doug)
Doug - 1 - (Franchise)
Oldfield - 1 - (Evans)

With 8 remaining 5 votes are needed for a lynch. DEADLINE is THURSDAY 10PM Eastern (4/28/22)
Do not post after deadline or the mod will assume you need help wiping your ass

[GM Franchise]

Overly aggressive is a bit of a stretch but you do you.

At least there's talking today. Except Fosters and Evans haven't chimed in yet.

On that note, its day 2 and Fosters hasn't made a single post other than he got his role.

Vote: Fosters

Going this route voting wise for the time being.

Voting inactives is the cheap way out. That's what players do when they aren't scum hunting and are just looking for an easy vote. That makes me even more confident with my vote and sticking with it unless someone fucks up royally and outs themselves as scum.

[GM Dougie]

I'm looking for a vote. Not an easy one. And this isn't just someone inactive. This is someone who based on the rules could potentially be modkilled. I'm theorizing that he's active behind the scenes and that's why my vote is where it is. It's not lazy it's me using a logical connection.

On the topic of things that stick out... twice in your posts about me you say I'll vote here unless something comes better. Not quite like Pancho trying to give himself multiple lynches but it's something I just want to keep an eye on.

Usually you are deadlocked on one player without mention of change. At least your gameplay often shows that. Not an insult just an observation so please don't take it that way.

[GM Evans]

Since Fosters is voting Doug I'm guessing he was silenced or something.

[GM Dougie]

That might be a mod typo. Franchise voted me but its not listed. I will consider that though pending if its real or if the vote count is corrected because regardless, Franchise's vote isn't currently there.

[GM Pancho]

Not sure why this was posted on Discord and not here ... but interesting to note.

Lucas (Vancouver/Omaha) — 04/22/2022
@The III  Champ [BAMA/MXC/FCC] @Doug E Fresh (Tucson) @Bruce Fosters (Michigan) @Oldfield (Tottenham/G-State) @Bennett (Music City/London) @Josh (Portland) @Evans (Lincoln) @Franchise (Milwaukee/Ontario)   An action that needs to be explained for mafia.  If any of you are silenced, muted, kidnapped, knocked out, in a hole etc. You CANNOT vote.

[GM Franchise]

I'm looking for a vote. Not an easy one. And this isn't just someone inactive. This is someone who based on the rules could potentially be modkilled. I'm theorizing that he's active behind the scenes and that's why my vote is where it is. It's not lazy it's me using a logical connection.

On the topic of things that stick out... twice in your posts about me you say I'll vote here unless something comes better. Not quite like Pancho trying to give himself multiple lynches but it's something I just want to keep an eye on.

Usually you are deadlocked on one player without mention of change. At least your gameplay often shows that. Not an insult just an observation so please don't take it that way.

This is an easy vote, bottom line. Voting inactive is the weakest vote in Mafia games in my opinion. As far as votes go remember when Ed literally got the players a voting him for erratic play? That's an example of the "royally fucks up" I was mentioning that you referenced. Also dafuq is up with the votes? Someone's doing some bullshit from how it looks to me.

[GM Dougie]

Well you are also someone who sometimes attracts votes just for getting riled up. I feel players going off get voted for more than inactive players in games in general.

I respect your opinion and the silencing thing does affect this. The mod I can see has corrected the vote count. There's no excuse for the inactivity day 1 but what the mod said in discord about the silenced not being able to vote lends to his inactivity for the day. I'll be pulling my vote and moving it to 2nd on my list.

Unvote

Vote: Pancho

[GM Dougie]

Actually. I take that back.

Unvote

He brought the silencing fact forward. That's not a scum-motivated play.

[GM Lucas]

Correction: The vote was from franchise not fosters

[GM Josh]

Fosters being silence does make sense based on the mod post.

Doug, your play is definitely out of the ordinary. You seem to be all over the place. I don't know if you're just having an off game or what but it's definitely odd and at this point in the game I feel the safe bet for scum is you.

vote: Doug

[GM Evans]

Correction: The vote was from franchise not fosters

It also says I'm voting Oldfield instead of Pancho voting Oldfield...

[GM Franchise]

Correction: The vote was from franchise not fosters

It also says I'm voting Oldfield instead of Pancho voting Oldfield...

I think we need an updated vote count with corrections.

[GM Dougie]

He has the person voting on the left and who they're voting for in parentheses. Backwards of what we're used to and an updated count would be in order.

[GM Evans]

Oh I see now, weird.

Unfortunately, another day that will likely end with nothing. A lot of people don't seem to be engaging in the game, which is rough in a 9-person game (now 8). Or there are a lot of fuckery roles in line with that message Pancho brought up from the discord, where players are getting silenced or kidnapped or what not, which is also rough in a 9-person game.

I'm going to

Vote: Oldfield

He has been giving me the biggest scum vibes. His reaction to Kirk dying, his reasoning for voting for me was pretty weak too (though at least he voted).

[GM Evans]

EBWOP

That's supposed to say: (now 8 ) lol

[GM Pancho]

Yes Oldfield has gone the way of the DoDo hasn't he ...

[Talon]

**CO-MOD NOTE -- if this isn't updated tonight when I have time to catch up, I will update the vote count myself**

[GM Lucas]

WE JUST WENT THE DAY PHASE WITH NO LYNCH. WE ARE IN NIGHT 2, PLEASE SEND YOUR ACTIONS THROUGH DM IF YOU HAVE ANY. DEADLINE IS SUNDAY MAY 1st at 9pm EST

(I'll be better for Day 3, between computer having issues and me putting in extra hours at my new job I'm exhausted but it gets better after Saturday)

THE CO MOD WILL UPDATE VOTE COUNT ON THIS THREAD MESSAGE

FINAL DAY TWO VOTE COUNT

Oldfield - 2 (Pancho, Evans)
Doug - 2 (Franchise, Josh)
Evans - 1 (Oldfield)

NOT VOTING:  Bennett, Fosters, Doug

[GM Lucas]

HOLD FOR WRITE UP

[GM Lucas]

(The night has arrived. The crew has come upon a very familiar and unsettling mansion. They know staying outside is not safe with the threat of a killer on the loose and decide to settle in. They open the front doors)

Lara Croft: This place does not sit well with me

Kratos: It's either here or out there.

McCloud: If we stay in this room and only this room we should be fine.

Player 5: I think we can handle what ever is beyond these walls, but we should be smart. I'm sure a place like this holds tons of items, weapons and maybe even some clues as to how to get to the princess. I say if we roll out we roll in in groups.

Lara Croft: he has a point, this feels a lot like the first time.

Player 3: Look, I got this quarter still, if we can find more, it would help us down the long road.

(Everyone agrees and decides to pair off and search the mansion)

McCloud: Lara, do you have a lock pick, we all know you, the master of picking locks can really use one.

Lara Croft: I actually don't.

(Lara Takes walks off with Player 5 to search the Mansion. Player 3 walks off with McCloud and Kratos walks off choosing to walk alone.)

Player 5: Lara, I'm going to check this hallway, if you see anything just yell out

Lara Croft: Got it

(As Lara walks down the hall she turns quickly having reacted to a shadowing figure she believes she saw run down a corridor. She yells out to player 5 but he doesn't respond. She then follows and ends up in a room. The lights flicker. Lara reaches around looking for a light and notices something on the desk near her. She looks at it and pick it up. Suddenly the lights come on. She looks around and steps into the room. She feels a breeze and takes it in. As she opens her eyes she notices the windows are closed and that's when she feels the burning tear of her back opening up as a claw tears through her back and rips out her heart. She turns only to see the fading image of Albert Wesker as she begin to flicker and blank out)

DEAD - Lara Croft -TOWN TRACKER

(Albert Wesker smirks and licks the blood from his deformed hand. He turns and is stunned by who he see's in front of him. He suddenly feels a sword go right through his chest

(Albert looks down and pulls off his shades in disbelief as the glow in his eyes fade)

DEAD - Albert Wesker - MAFIA ASSASSIN

IT IS NOW DAY 3, 3 DAYS REMAINING UNTIL SANDS RUN OUT.
With  6 Alive it takes 4 to Lynch. DEALINE IS Saturday Night 9pm EST (5/7/77)

[GM Franchise]

That was an eventful night. The good news is the Mafia assassin is gone. Now we just need an updated player list and we're set.

[GM Lucas]

UPDATED PLAYER LIST
FRANCHISE
BENNETT
EVANS
JOSH
OLDFIELD
PANCHO

[GM Oldfield]

So either Foster was the tracker or the assassin or Doug. My guess would be that Doug was Mafia but given how quiet Fosters was who knows.

Good news is that We may be 1 away from victory

[GM Franchise]

WE JUST WENT THE DAY PHASE WITH NO LYNCH. WE ARE IN NIGHT 2, PLEASE SEND YOUR ACTIONS THROUGH DM IF YOU HAVE ANY. DEADLINE IS SUNDAY MAY 1st at 9pm EST

(I'll be better for Day 3, between computer having issues and me putting in extra hours at my new job I'm exhausted but it gets better after Saturday)

THE CO MOD WILL UPDATE VOTE COUNT ON THIS THREAD MESSAGE

FINAL DAY TWO VOTE COUNT

Oldfield - 2 (Pancho, Evans)
Doug - 2 (Franchise, Josh)
Evans - 1 (Oldfield)

NOT VOTING:  Bennett, Fosters, Doug

Thank you. Oldfield, Doug, and Evans got the votes the last day phase. One of them was eliminated last night which has piqued my interest greatly considering I voted for Doug who was eliminated last night phase.

[GM Franchise]

So either Foster was the tracker or the assassin or Doug. My guess would be that Doug was Mafia but given how quiet Fosters was who knows.

Good news is that We may be 1 away from victory

I'm leaning that way too but its not for certain considering we don't know who had which role in the write up.

[GM Pancho]

So either Foster was the tracker or the assassin or Doug. My guess would be that Doug was Mafia but given how quiet Fosters was who knows.

Good news is that We may be 1 away from victory

Can you be specific why you think Doug was the Mafia?

Can you be specific why you think we are 1 away?

[GM Oldfield]

So either Foster was the tracker or the assassin or Doug. My guess would be that Doug was Mafia but given how quiet Fosters was who knows.

Good news is that We may be 1 away from victory

Can you be specific why you think Doug was the Mafia?

Can you be specific why you think we are 1 away?

I can't be specific to either. They're hunches. I don't think anyone suspected Fosters, so for him to be targeted by town in the night is completely out the blue.

And with 9 players starting, 3 Mafia seems to many to me.

Now for my question. Are you cloud?

[GM Bennett]

That's kinda sus of you to ask him that, Stevie.

I wasn't expecting what happened last night to happen at all. I wouldn't have thought Doug was scum but backreading it was Josh who suspected him the most by identifying how he was acting.

[GM Franchise]

I got nothing. As far as the posts go from the last day phase nothing stands out other than the three votes. Nobody posted that much but the Doug post about the lack of posts stood out. Reminds me of my play when I'm scum which is why it's standing out to me. Might be nothing but I'm taking note of it for later on if the games stalls out and he has the opposite reaction to the lack of posting later in the game.

Yeah, I wasn't onto Doug at all...

[GM Franchise]

So either Foster was the tracker or the assassin or Doug. My guess would be that Doug was Mafia but given how quiet Fosters was who knows.

Good news is that We may be 1 away from victory

Can you be specific why you think Doug was the Mafia?

Can you be specific why you think we are 1 away?

I can't be specific to either. They're hunches. I don't think anyone suspected Fosters, so for him to be targeted by town in the night is completely out the blue.

And with 9 players starting, 3 Mafia seems to many to me.

Now for my question. Are you cloud?

If Doug was Mafia, he was the only one pushing voting Fosters for being inactive. If Fosters was the town player killed last night then the plan likely was to eliminate the inactive, have Doug play up that he was set up likely by myself or Josh (or Pancho), and set up that lynch this day phase. It didn't work because he was targeted for a night kill as well. I don't see Fosters being highly targeted so if that's the case it would've been a smart move if he wasn't also night killed as well. That's my working theory at the moment and it makes the most sense considering how much more active Doug was than Fosters in the game.

[GM Josh]

vote: oldfield

The comment about how many mafia left speaks to more knowledge about the mafia than us, which may be a slip. Trying to get someone to put their role for no reason is super sus and his voting has seemed odd to me.

[GM Oldfield]

I asked because it directly affects my role

[GM Bennett]

Eh the theory about talking about how many scum remains = scum seems like a stretch to me.

If we're gonna punish someone for openly theorizing then by that logic Franchise would be our main culprit every game. I would think that just helps us get an idea of our odds if exposing and defeating scum and if true I would think we have a pretty good chance of winning this thing despite losing our tracker & cop.

I didn't like the questioning about the role bit tho. Maybe he does have a connection with the character Cloud like he's suggesting, but that's the only thing I haven't quite liked so far today

[GM Franchise]

It sounds like it's likely just a character connection. If it's a role connection. It could possibly clear both of them and narrow down who the scum player or players are.

[GM Pancho]

So either Foster was the tracker or the assassin or Doug. My guess would be that Doug was Mafia but given how quiet Fosters was who knows.

Good news is that We may be 1 away from victory

Can you be specific why you think Doug was the Mafia?

Can you be specific why you think we are 1 away?

I can't be specific to either. They're hunches. I don't think anyone suspected Fosters, so for him to be targeted by town in the night is completely out the blue.

And with 9 players starting, 3 Mafia seems to many to me.

Now for my question. Are you cloud?

Curious you would think that but NO - I AM NOT CLOUD.

What's with the Character fishing?  Considering you are my top scum read I want to hold off because that kind of question seems to come from half information - better to spill it than be split.

[GM Franchise]

Eh the theory about talking about how many scum remains = scum seems like a stretch to me.

If we're gonna punish someone for openly theorizing then by that logic Franchise would be our main culprit every game. I would think that just helps us get an idea of our odds if exposing and defeating scum and if true I would think we have a pretty good chance of winning this thing despite losing our tracker & cop.

I didn't like the questioning about the role bit tho. Maybe he does have a connection with the character Cloud like he's suggesting, but that's the only thing I haven't quite liked so far today

Every game? That's a bit of a stretch considering it's usually someone else who brings it up before I call them out on their bullshit. Right now I have a general idea of who I'm voting for. Speaking of that, I've got some questions. This is the second time you've brought my name up. Setting something up or just posting general game banter?

I asked because it directly affects my role

Cut the bullshit and the fishing. How does it directly effect your role? Are you another Final Fantasy character? That's the only reason to ask that which is why I'm asking because it's clear I'm voting for you or Bennett.

[GM Oldfield]

Yeah sorry should have been clearer. I'm Aerith. I'm pretty useless unless I find them.

[GM Franchise]

Yeah sorry should have been clearer. I'm Aerith. I'm pretty useless unless I find them.

Gotcha. Kratos and Cloud are in the write ups. If you're telling the truth then that narrows things down a bit.

Vote: Bennett

[GM Oldfield]

McCloud is in the write up. That's a very different character

[GM Franchise]

McCloud is in the write up. That's a very different character

Gotcha. I meant that but saw Cloud in the other post. Anyway going by what you've said (if it's true) I've narrowed it down to Bennett and Evans. If it's anyone else I'm going to be surprised.

[GM Josh]

unvote

Still a little ehh about the role fishing, but with the claim it's worth the benefit of the doubt.

vote:Evans

He pulled the same go after the inactive last stunt as Doug which since this is such a small game, we know Doug loves his numbers. It would have been smart play to work on dropping the numbers quickly that way.

[GM Franchise]

Unvote
Vote: Evans

I'm cool with this. You and Pancho also were suspicious of Doug so I'm positive y'all are town. Oldfield highly likely is town. Process of elimination and I'm cool with voting Bennett or Evans.

[GM Oldfield]

Yeah I feel Bennett but the reasoning behind Evans is good.

Vote Evans

[GM Pancho]

Deadline is tomorrow night and if my math is right Evans is at Hammer.  I want to give Evans the chance to respond since he's been quiet but I'm prepared to drop the hammer Saturday Morning if he doesn't respond by then. No need to risk getting close to end of day.

[GM Bennett]

Eh the theory about talking about how many scum remains = scum seems like a stretch to me.

If we're gonna punish someone for openly theorizing then by that logic Franchise would be our main culprit every game. I would think that just helps us get an idea of our odds if exposing and defeating scum and if true I would think we have a pretty good chance of winning this thing despite losing our tracker & cop.

I didn't like the questioning about the role bit tho. Maybe he does have a connection with the character Cloud like he's suggesting, but that's the only thing I haven't quite liked so far today

Every game? That's a bit of a stretch considering it's usually someone else who brings it up before I call them out on their bullshit. Right now I have a general idea of who I'm voting for. Speaking of that, I've got some questions. This is the second time you've brought my name up. Setting something up or just posting general game banter?

I asked because it directly affects my role

Cut the bullshit and the fishing. How does it directly effect your role? Are you another Final Fantasy character? That's the only reason to ask that which is why I'm asking because it's clear I'm voting for you or Bennett.

I find it odd you felt as if I was attacking you or anything like that when I was making a general statement and gave an example of how I wasn't agreeing with someone else's idea of pointing fingers at someone...That's strange but alrighty then.

And if you dont recall the first time I even said your name was because of the interaction between yourself, Pancho and Doug was the only thing for me to actually go off of and stood out during Day 2.

So you're theory of me "setting something up" doesn't quite correlate when I haven't actually said anything to make you feel that way. So your stance is pretty weird to me to say the least...

[GM Bennett]

Deadline is tomorrow night and if my math is right Evans is at Hammer.  I want to give Evans the chance to respond since he's been quiet but I'm prepared to drop the hammer Saturday Morning if he doesn't respond by then. No need to risk getting close to end of day.

I'm of the same mindset at as well