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Secret Hitler GAME OVER FASCISTS WIN!

Started by GM Dougie, June 07, 2023, 10:35:44 AM

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GM Dougie

We have a 7 player game of Secret Hitler. Here are some specifics to remember about 7 players:

There are 4 liberals, 2 fascists, and a secret hitler who is on the fascist team.

Presidential Powers in this game when fascist policies are played:
1st - None
2nd - Policy Peek
3rd - Special Election
4th - Kill
5th - Kill and Veto Power unlocked

Things true in every game:

The deck contains 6 liberal (blue) and 11 fascist (red) policies.
Everyone votes for government even if you're in it. Majority rules so in this case 4 yes votes approves a government. All you need to do at any time in its own post or a separate one is Vote: Yes/No (Vote: Yes)
If it ain't bolded I ain't counting it. Once a president picks a chancellor, you get 24ish hours to vote. TO BE CONSISTENT WITH BOTH THE ORIGINAL GAME AND TO BE KIND TO NEW PLAYERS, NO UNVOTING. A VOTE CAST IS SET IN STONE AS A VOTE
3 consecutive governments that fail to be approved result in the top policy of the deck being played.
All policy draws will be through private communication.
President always goes in order. If you were in a government the previous turn you cannot be in government the next turn unless you were chancellor and its suddenly your turn to be president.

Any questions, please message me on the boards or on discord.

For Storm who I'm not sure has any experience with the game, here are the rules again for when you play live: https://www.secrethitler.com/assets/Secret_Hitler_Rules.pdf
We've adapted it to the boards as best we can. No one speaks to one another privately. All communication goes either in the game thread or in messages to me. You are allowed to post as much as you want except in phases I say its not allowed.

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It's night time in Germany and once again the fascists are up to no good. Can YOU stop the Secret Hitler?

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Seating Order for the game:

Talon
Storm
Pancho
Eli
Oldfield
Powers
Franchise

Therefore...to save time, Talon is first president. You first goal to get the game started is to publicly nominated a chancellor for government.

Lets go!

Talon


GM Dougie

Well THAT didn't take long.

Voting for Talon/Pancho begins. You have 24ish hours until 11am EST time to vote yes or no. 4 votes results in an active government. You may continue to post while voting

Talon

Obviously, I vote yes.

Pancho is a strong player, I know some like to nominate from the other end of the table, but I prefer to nominate someone I trust will play a blue policy.

GM Eli


GM Pancho

Quote from: Talon on June 07, 2023, 11:14:53 AM
Obviously, I vote yes.

Pancho is a strong player, I know some like to nominate from the other end of the table, but I prefer to nominate someone I trust will play a blue policy.

Interesting play. I don't disagree with me being a strong player. But I'm not sure what I've done to earn your trust to play a blue policy without posting ...

But I do happen to be liberal so if given one I'll play one. Wonder if I trust you to pass me a liberal policy.

I vote Yes

Talon

since you've already voted:

I'm saying you wouldnt play a red even if you were a facist this early in the game, so I trust that you're going to play a liberal policy regardless of alignment.

GM Franchise


GM Dougie

And with that the game truly begins. That's enough yes votes to start a government. No talking please during government phase.

GM Dougie

The government has met and have enacted a...

Fascist Policy

In a 7 player game there is no presidential power to resolve on the first fascist policy. We may move on.

Talking may resume. Storm is now president. Talon and Pancho are ineligible to become chancellor.

GM Franchise


GM Eli

Quote from: GM Franchise on June 07, 2023, 08:29:23 PM
Okay what happened, guys?

Yeah, what Franchise said. What cards did you get, Talon? And what got passed on to you, Panch?

GM Storm

New to this game so while that gets discussed does anyone have a suggestion for who I should nominate? Or a desire to be picked?

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Storm on June 07, 2023, 09:37:41 PM
New to this game so while that gets discussed does anyone have a suggestion for who I should nominate? Or a desire to be picked?

Oldfield or anyone else who didn't vote yes. The first policy coming up red is suspect as hell. Oldfield didn't vote and the rest of us did so it's him by default in my opinion.

Talon

Pancho didn't have a choice, I was dealt three reds.


GM Oldfield

Didn't even realise the game had started. Apologies

Talon

Quote from: GM Storm on June 07, 2023, 09:37:41 PM
New to this game so while that gets discussed does anyone have a suggestion for who I should nominate? Or a desire to be picked?

Early on unless you get a read on someone, its not a huge deal who you pick. 

Franchise makes sense with going with Oldfield though.

GM Oldfield


GM Storm


GM Franchise


GM Dougie

Voting for Stormfield begins. Already 1 yes vote. 24 hours until 8:15ish PM tomorrow to come to a majority.

GM Mike Powers

Quote from: GM Oldfield on June 08, 2023, 06:52:48 AM
Didn't even realise the game had started. Apologies

Not that it mattered, from game start to vote finished it was like 3 hrs.

I'm gonna Vote Yes


Talon


GM Dougie


GM Dougie

The government has met and have enacted a...

Liberal Policy

Talking may resume. Pancho is now next president. Storm and Oldfield are ineligible to become chancellor.

GM Mike Powers

Curious who Pancho will nom. I have thoughts, but I'm gonna wait until the nom is made to voice them

GM Pancho

Yay on the blue policy.

My instinct is to want to choose Talon. But I'm open to discussion from the rest of the table.

Talon

Storm, what did you get dealt?

Oldfield, what did you get handed?

GM Storm

I was given 2 red policies and 1 blue policy and chose to discard one red.

GM Eli

I'd be happy to be chancellor but as I'm president next I can understand if not me. I'm kind of torn on the idea of Talon tbh as the Talon/Pancho combo provided us with a red policy. But maybe running it back will provide us with some clarity.

Personally, if it was me as President right now, I'd probably pick Powers or Franchise because they're still a few rounds off from Presidential power and we don't have anything tangible to get a read on either of them yet.

GM Franchise

I like what I'm hearing from Storm. Glad we got a blue policy passed after how the first government went down.

Talon

I'm happy to be Chancellor again, but open to anything.

GM Pancho

Quote from: GM Eli on June 09, 2023, 09:55:17 AM
I'd be happy to be chancellor but as I'm president next I can understand if not me. I'm kind of torn on the idea of Talon tbh as the Talon/Pancho combo provided us with a red policy. But maybe running it back will provide us with some clarity.

Personally, if it was me as President right now, I'd probably pick Powers or Franchise because they're still a few rounds off from Presidential power and we don't have anything tangible to get a read on either of them yet.

I don't disagree.

Talon for me is furthest from the table. And I was really curious why he "trusted" me to play blue.

It was interesting for me to read that Talon believed I would play a blue policy despite my allegiance because it was so early in the game.

GM Oldfield

I got a red and a blue. Discarded red. For those counting

GM Pancho


GM Franchise

Vote: No

The first government with you two produced a red policy so that's reason enough for a no vote right there.

Talon


GM Pancho


GM Oldfield

Vote yes

Due a few blues coming out

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Oldfield on June 10, 2023, 03:22:17 PM
Vote yes

Due a few blues coming out

If people were telling the truth that is...

GM Dougie

Pancho/Talon government is at 3 yes and 1 no.

Apologies for my lack of attention. You may continue to vote until 10am EST tomorrow.

GM Mike Powers

Vote no

Don't think both are facist, but one probably is. I can't trust either of them at this point.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Mike Powers on June 10, 2023, 08:53:59 PM
Vote no

Don't think both are facist, but one probably is. I can't trust either of them at this point.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

GM Storm

I'm torn because Powers makes a good point but if what everyone has told us so far has been true then we have better odds of getting at least one blue card dealt this hand than there was in the opening hand (36% on this hand vs 35% on the first). I'm not sure one hand is enough to figure out if there was bad luck on the first draw or if there was something more nefarious happening. A second opportunity should clear that up. If another red drops we can always vote no on any pairing that has one of them in the future.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Storm on June 10, 2023, 09:12:55 PM
I'm torn because Powers makes a good point but if what everyone has told us so far has been true then we have better odds of getting at least one blue card dealt this hand than there was in the opening hand (36% on this hand vs 35% on the first). I'm not sure one hand is enough to figure out if there was bad luck on the first draw or if there was something more nefarious happening. A second opportunity should clear that up. If another red drops we can always vote no on any pairing that has one of them in the future.

I'm doing that with any pair involving them because one or both is likely a fascist and until we know which one it's too risky to do especially later in the game when the red cards start becoming more of a factor in the game.

GM Eli

Quote from: GM Franchise on June 10, 2023, 09:22:57 PM
Quote from: GM Storm on June 10, 2023, 09:12:55 PM
I'm torn because Powers makes a good point but if what everyone has told us so far has been true then we have better odds of getting at least one blue card dealt this hand than there was in the opening hand (36% on this hand vs 35% on the first). I'm not sure one hand is enough to figure out if there was bad luck on the first draw or if there was something more nefarious happening. A second opportunity should clear that up. If another red drops we can always vote no on any pairing that has one of them in the future.

I'm doing that with any pair involving them because one or both is likely a fascist and until we know which one it's too risky to do especially later in the game when the red cards start becoming more of a factor in the game.

Do you think the only governments we should allow are ones that have either Oldfield or Storm then since they played a blue on their hand? Idk. I see where you're coming from but I think it's too early to be writing anyone in the game off yet.

Vote: Yes

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Eli on June 10, 2023, 10:00:35 PM
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 10, 2023, 09:22:57 PM
Quote from: GM Storm on June 10, 2023, 09:12:55 PM
I'm torn because Powers makes a good point but if what everyone has told us so far has been true then we have better odds of getting at least one blue card dealt this hand than there was in the opening hand (36% on this hand vs 35% on the first). I'm not sure one hand is enough to figure out if there was bad luck on the first draw or if there was something more nefarious happening. A second opportunity should clear that up. If another red drops we can always vote no on any pairing that has one of them in the future.

I'm doing that with any pair involving them because one or both is likely a fascist and until we know which one it's too risky to do especially later in the game when the red cards start becoming more of a factor in the game.

Do you think the only governments we should allow are ones that have either Oldfield or Storm then since they played a blue on their hand? Idk. I see where you're coming from but I think it's too early to be writing anyone in the game off yet.

Vote: Yes

One of them is is fascist, that much is very obvious. It's just figuring out which one at this point. It's never to early to start thinking that. Might end up deciding the game later on.


GM Dougie

The government has met and have enacted a...

Liberal Policy

Talking may resume. Eli is now next president. Pancho and Talon are ineligible to become chancellor.