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Secret Hitler GAME OVER FASCISTS WIN!

Started by GM Dougie, June 07, 2023, 10:35:44 AM

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GM Pancho

Odd that Oldfield hasn't chimed in with what he was given. Or what Eli knows is given. For the record I received two reds.

GM Franchise

Interesting observations. I'm going to Nominate: Storm because going by what I'm seeing he's the least likely player to be Hitler in the game. Leaning toward Powers being a liberal as well, he was my second choice.

GM Dougie

Voting begins for Franchise/Storm

You have 24ish hours until 4:30pm EST tomorrow.

GM Storm

We can vote for a pairing we're a part of right? If I can I obviously Vote Yes

GM Storm

Quote from: GM Franchise on June 15, 2023, 03:44:22 PM
Interesting observations. I'm going to Nominate: Storm because going by what I'm seeing he's the least likely player to be Hitler in the game. Leaning toward Powers being a liberal as well, he was my second choice.

I think Powers is probably good as well but probably better to be safe not going with him this time just in case since he's president next.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Storm on June 15, 2023, 05:57:12 PM
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 15, 2023, 03:44:22 PM
Interesting observations. I'm going to Nominate: Storm because going by what I'm seeing he's the least likely player to be Hitler in the game. Leaning toward Powers being a liberal as well, he was my second choice.

I think Powers is probably good as well but probably better to be safe not going with him this time just in case since he's president next.

Bingo, I factored that into this decision.

GM Mike Powers

Quote from: GM Franchise on June 15, 2023, 12:08:33 PM
I'm leaning Storm currently. He's the player I think is most likely to be a liberal.

Agreed on Storm.


Quote from: GM Pancho on June 15, 2023, 03:12:32 PM
Odd that Oldfield hasn't chimed in with what he was given. Or what Eli knows is given. For the record I received two reds.

Yes, "odd". It's almost like they shouldn't be trusted.

Talon

I'll reserve my vote for once we hear from Oldfield and Eli.

GM Mike Powers

Quote from: Talon on June 15, 2023, 07:26:18 PM
I'll reserve my vote for once we hear from Oldfield and Eli.

💯

GM Eli

I can confirm there were at least 2 red cards in the draw. I'll wait for oldfield to reveal his third card before I confirm or deny.

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Eli on June 15, 2023, 08:12:42 PM
I can confirm there were at least 2 red cards in the draw. I'll wait for oldfield to reveal his third card before I confirm or deny.

Oldfield, anything to say about this?

Talon

So either Oldfield got 3 reds and had no choice and Eli knows it or he got 2 reds and one blue and discarded the blue and Eli knows that Oldfield is Facists.

****OOR**** They are both fascists and are stalling the vote to cause more distrust.

I feel like if Eli saw 2 red 1 blue, he'd just out that Oldfield is a blue discarding fascist so we knew he could not be trusted.

Talon

that being said, I see no reason to vote against Storm, I just will not be trusting or voting for an Eli or Oldfield government in any capacity going forward.

Vote Yes

GM Franchise

Quote from: Talon on June 15, 2023, 11:43:37 PM
So either Oldfield got 3 reds and had no choice and Eli knows it or he got 2 reds and one blue and discarded the blue and Eli knows that Oldfield is Facists.

****OOR**** They are both fascists and are stalling the vote to cause more distrust.

I feel like if Eli saw 2 red 1 blue, he'd just out that Oldfield is a blue discarding fascist so we knew he could not be trusted.

One of these is accurate in all scenarios, the logic is sound. One or both of them are fascists. If that's true then it would confirm my suspicions that I've had since the second red was passed.

GM Oldfield

Quote from: Talon on June 15, 2023, 01:16:10 AM
the deck was pretty stacked for a red draw.  It doesn't mean the government was fascist.

I'm saying everyone is pretty sus of everyone else right now, I shouldn't have to shout IM SUSPICIOUS OF ALL YALL to be suspicious.

I don't object to you being President, but the reasoning behind it was just weird, as if you're the only one who feels like you can't trust anybody.     Just because I support you being president doesnt mean I'll support who you pick as chancellor, every vote matters now because one wrong move and its end game.

Oldfield, what did you draw and what did you discard?

So I just seen this question. I was given three reds.

Vote yes

GM Oldfield

Sorry no excuses for being delayed but yesterday was day 1 of a pretty crappy doctors strike

GM Franchise

Quote from: GM Oldfield on June 16, 2023, 03:36:29 AM
Quote from: Talon on June 15, 2023, 01:16:10 AM
the deck was pretty stacked for a red draw.  It doesn't mean the government was fascist.

I'm saying everyone is pretty sus of everyone else right now, I shouldn't have to shout IM SUSPICIOUS OF ALL YALL to be suspicious.

I don't object to you being President, but the reasoning behind it was just weird, as if you're the only one who feels like you can't trust anybody.     Just because I support you being president doesnt mean I'll support who you pick as chancellor, every vote matters now because one wrong move and its end game.

Oldfield, what did you draw and what did you discard?

So I just seen this question. I was given three reds.

Vote yes

Interesting...


GM Eli

Oh and Oldfield told the truth about his cards. 3 reds was what my policy peek told me.

GM Dougie

Government is now active. No tal....

Oh wait. Not necessary.

Cuz ya'll fuckers elected Hitler as chancellor!

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GAME OVER. FASCISTS WIN!


Time to discuss your game. My thoughts will come later.


GM Eli


GM Mike Powers

Okay Storm got me. Had no read on the new guy. Who were the others?


GM Mike Powers



Talon


Talon


GM Franchise


Talon

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GM Dougie

Sorry its been crazy. But promised notes.

The deck made a huge difference in this game. Both of the first 2 draws were 1 blue 2 reds. Then 3 blues and 6 reds in a row. So obviously those first 2 draws really mattered. Talon made a very important play in the beginning of the game.

All too often people who are fascist think they NEED to look liberal early on. But the beginning is the BEST time to lie. Hell, think of a mafia game our reads always change by the 3rd day phase. Talon made a great decision discarding the blue and giving Panch 2 reds on the first draw. That red policy changes the game entirely. If it goes blue and then assumedly Storm's goes blue (in order for Storm to look good since he's Hitler, then the score of the game becomes 3-2 blue AND eli never gets the policy peek Oldfield does instead.

Here was the deck:

Blue
Red
Red
Red
Blue
Red
Blue
Blue
Blue
Red
Red
Red
Red
Red
Red
Red
Blue

And the reshuffle had 4 straight reds before any blue. Really crazy randomness with the deck.

GM Storm

This was fun. I thought Franchise and Eli were my teammates. Was surprised by Talon.